2015 Arch Madness seeding probabilities

[BCPanther]

It's not a coincidence that UNI is having a great year now that 4 years of the dead McDermott scholarship are over.

Year 1- Too late in the spring, went unused.
Year 2- Olivier Redshirt Year
Year 3- Olivier quits in December
Year 4- Jesperson transfer year

It literally took a scholarship for 4 years and put us in a situation where Rank and Singleton couldn't use the redshirt years they both needed.

Or Jacobson could have recruited a big man that could play in year 2 or 3. The Olivier miss had nothing to do with McDermott. I don't buy Jespersen as a transfer for missing on a big for a 4th consecutive year. In fact, one could argue that if Doug McD had gone to UNI then Jespersen wouldn't have been able to transfer in at all.

After Tuttle, Singleton and Buss (assuming he's done) leave, what will be your excuse for not having any big man depth next year?

We'll be fine. I expect McDonnell to come in and maybe even start from Day 1. Koch is going to be very good and coaches really like Carlson, there just aren't minutes for him this year.

Justin Dahl is a 6'11" 240 kid from the Twin Cities that has gone 20\20 7 or 8 times this year. We'll see if the redshirt year helped Friedman.

The future is pretty bright and worst case scenario it's that Jesperson plays sine minutes at the 4 next year.

[Wufan]

I actually like what I've seen from lil Koch in limited minutes this year. The Panthers will certainly have depth (poor word choice on my part) next year, but as mentioned, quality will be unknown.

[glm38]

Depth at the post position is really a problem for just about every Valley team isn't it? There just aren't enough quality 4/5 players to go around even for a team like WSU. As good as WSU has been this year they have a definite gap at the post in between Carter and their young guys. Is that a deficiency on the part of Marshall and staff? I don't think so. I'm sure they took the best players available to them.

Next year it appears we (the Valley) will really have a dearth of quality post players. If Mock doesn't come back who does that leave? Lynch for sure but who else. You could argue that Tyler McCullough even though he's been really inconsistent could be one of the top 3 or 4 fives in the league. Kind of by default.

[unipanther99]

The thing I wonder about Doug McDermott is if he had come to UNI, would he have been a different kind of player? I think he would still be a monster on offense, but would he also be known as a great defender? Would he possibly be playing for the Bulls (at least a little bit more) if he had spent 4 years with Jake as opposed to his dad?

[Wufan]

The thing I wonder about Doug McDermott is if he had come to UNI, would he have been a different kind of player? I think he would still be a monster on offense, but would he also be known as a great defender? Would he possibly be playing for the Bulls (at least a little bit more) if he had spent 4 years with Jake as opposed to his dad?

Great defender? I can't imagine. Better defender? Maybe.

[glm38]

The thing I wonder about Doug McDermott is if he had come to UNI, would he have been a different kind of player? I think he would still be a monster on offense, but would he also be known as a great defender? Would he possibly be playing for the Bulls (at least a little bit more) if he had spent 4 years with Jake as opposed to his dad?

I think he would have had a different career for sure. But I don't think it would have been as spectacular. Playing for UNI would have probably made him a marginally better defender. But no way he scores at the rate he did for CU at UNI. He would have been a good player at UNI for sure. But CU and their offense 1st system is much more suited to his skill set.

[Wufan]

Depth at the post position is really a problem for just about every Valley team isn't it? There just aren't enough quality 4/5 players to go around even for a team like WSU. As good as WSU has been this year they have a definite gap at the post in between Carter and their young guys. Is that a deficiency on the part of Marshall and staff? I don't think so. I'm sure they took the best players available to them.

Next year it appears we (the Valley) will really have a dearth of quality post players. If Mock doesn't come back who does that leave? Lynch for sure but who else. You could argue that Tyler McCullough even though he's been really inconsistent could be one of the top 3 or 4 fives in the league. Kind of by default.

The 4 position will be strong next year. The post forward/center position is much more up in the air. Mock and Lynch. Jordan Caroline and Shaq Morris should be very good next year. Montel James is okay. Drake and UNI might or might not have some young talent. McCullough will break out as a junior or senior. TJ Bell is intriguing. Can Xavier Taylor break out?

[PantherSigEp]

Did we just ask or imply if UNI fans prefer 2 years of Jesperson to 4 yrs of McDermott? Uh...that one should be obvious. Plus Jesperson still wants to leave UVA regardless of Doug. They would've figured out the scholarship last year and the situation is still the same this year. Olivier was the "replacement" and never felt like working hard. We had to give Rank 15 mins of game time as a 4/5. Singleton never redshirts. Plus UNI brings in a number of talented recruits and players despite being "down". Let's not kid ourselves, UNI isn't national champion with Doug but Creighton would be even worse and we wouldn't be talking about UNI's tourney drought. It made a difference. Especially when we had all those middle-of-the-pack ties in the standings. You can't tell me Doug doesn't help the Panthers win about 2-3 more games each year (minimum). Even if he isn't the same high-volume scorer. Jake's system limits stats, but obviously it doesn't limit talent

[UNIFanSince1983]

Depth at the post position is really a problem for just about every Valley team isn't it? There just aren't enough quality 4/5 players to go around even for a team like WSU. As good as WSU has been this year they have a definite gap at the post in between Carter and their young guys. Is that a deficiency on the part of Marshall and staff? I don't think so. I'm sure they took the best players available to them.

Next year it appears we (the Valley) will really have a dearth of quality post players. If Mock doesn't come back who does that leave? Lynch for sure but who else. You could argue that Tyler McCullough even though he's been really inconsistent could be one of the top 3 or 4 fives in the league. Kind of by default.

The 4 position will be strong next year. The post forward/center position is much more up in the air. Mock and Lynch. Jordan Caroline and Shaq Morris should be very good next year. Montel James is okay. Drake and UNI might or might not have some young talent. McCullough will break out as a junior or senior. TJ Bell is intriguing. Can Xavier Taylor break out?

Yeah I think guys like Caroline and Morris will be really good at the center position next year. Obviously, Lynch and Mock will be very very good. I hope that Koch can put himself in that group with more playing time. More time to get in a rhythm. We will just have to wait and see though.

[Wufan]

Did we just ask or imply if UNI fans prefer 2 years of Jesperson to 4 yrs of McDermott? Uh...that one should be obvious. Plus Jesperson still wants to leave UVA regardless of Doug. They would've figured out the scholarship last year and the situation is still the same this year. Olivier was the "replacement" and never felt like working hard. We had to give Rank 15 mins of game time as a 4/5. Singleton never redshirts. Plus UNI brings in a number of talented recruits and players despite being "down". Let's not kid ourselves, UNI isn't national champion with Doug but Creighton would be even worse and we wouldn't be talking about UNI's tourney drought. It made a difference. Especially when we had all those middle-of-the-pack ties in the standings. You can't tell me Doug doesn't help the Panthers win about 2-3 more games each year (minimum). Even if he isn't the same high-volume scorer. Jake's system limits stats, but obviously it doesn't limit talent

I wouldn't argue any of this. I argued that not getting McDermott didn't lead to a failure to get a big man in year 2-4.