MVC Week 8

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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby MoValleyFan » February 19th, 2019, 9:42 pm

musiccitybulldog wrote:In an off shooting night Drake beats Bradley 77-68. Bulldogs lead the conference.


Those 3 technical fouls really impacted the Braves .... Nate should stick to shooting from outside ...
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby Rambler63 » February 19th, 2019, 9:43 pm

Missed the Tuesday game

UE @ LU - Loyola
ISU @ ISU - Illinois State
SIU @ VU - Valpo
UNI @ MSU - MSU

UE @ BU - BU
ISU @ MSU - MSU
VU @ UNI - UNI
DU @ ISU - Drake
LU @ SIU - LU
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby Drakey » February 19th, 2019, 9:51 pm

Is there any specific call that was wrong? I'm sure there were several as in all games, but the Braves were pretty handsy. The technicals were earned, and the flagrant call was absolutely correct. Murphy was in perfect position for the rebound and next thing you know he is laying on the ground and Bradley has the ball. What's the deal with the Braves refusing to come out of their huddle during the starting lineup announcement? Never seen that before.
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby VUGrad1314 » February 19th, 2019, 9:59 pm

Third coach in 3 years depleted roster injury to Norton all no problem. 21 wins 10-5 and MVC leaders. Well done Drake! This is awesome to see. You're doing a reat job recruiting in our backyard as well. I think big things are ahead for the bulldogs.
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby agernes » February 19th, 2019, 10:10 pm

Drakey wrote:Is there any specific call that was wrong? I'm sure there were several as in all games, but the Braves were pretty handsy. The technicals were earned, and the flagrant call was absolutely correct. Murphy was in perfect position for the rebound and next thing you know he is laying on the ground and Bradley has the ball. What's the deal with the Braves refusing to come out of their huddle during the starting lineup announcement? Never seen that before.


Pretty much concur, the techs were very earned. the foul count in the first half was 6-9, which is not absurd, and it was 6-10 before the intentionals started coming in the second half. Again, not absurd. I know that Bradley fans were mad about a McGlynn block and there was definitely a weird loose ball foul called on a play where Wilkins was involved. Thought there was some home cooking but not the worst I've ever seen. The refs patently missed the hook and hold, glad that they got that cleared up.
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby davidfast » February 19th, 2019, 10:20 pm

Starting 0-5 was the refs fault too right? Complaining about officiating is about as effective as yelling at the sun for rising, but to each their own.
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby ptownbraves » February 19th, 2019, 10:35 pm

Drakey wrote:Is there any specific call that was wrong? I'm sure there were several as in all games, but the Braves were pretty handsy. The technicals were earned, and the flagrant call was absolutely correct. Murphy was in perfect position for the rebound and next thing you know he is laying on the ground and Bradley has the ball. What's the deal with the Braves refusing to come out of their huddle during the starting lineup announcement? Never seen that before.


Did we watch the same game? The refs tarnished what should have been a competitive late February matchup between two of the hottest teams in the conference.

It was not only the act of reversing a Drake foul call and assigning it to Bradley after a review, but also:
- Refs swallowing their whistles when there was contact from Drake but calling ticky tack stuff on the other end. If you're going to call a tight game, you call it tight for both sides. For what it's worth, I thought toward the end the refs called some questionable fouls on Drake too. By that point, the game was pretty much in the bag.
- A blatant Drake travel that wasn't whistled and led to a big basket down the stretch.
- Murphy throwing his elbows up after a pedestrian intentional foul and no call from the refs.
- A few too many home friendly out of bounds calls on rebound tips.
- The loose ball non-contact foul on DLO from the ref on the other side of the court. The ref right in front of the play didn't blow his whistle.
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby tribecalledquest » February 19th, 2019, 10:49 pm

Drakey wrote:Is there any specific call that was wrong? I'm sure there were several as in all games, but the Braves were pretty handsy. The technicals were earned, and the flagrant call was absolutely correct. Murphy was in perfect position for the rebound and next thing you know he is laying on the ground and Bradley has the ball. What's the deal with the Braves refusing to come out of their huddle during the starting lineup announcement? Never seen that before.


Yep. Lets start with the first one 13 seconds in.

You have the announcers all night talking about how "physical" a game it was for both teams. Ok. Fine. But when one team shoots 36 FTs to the other teams 9 that doesn't really show that both teams were being physical. In an equally phsyical game both teams will shoot a lot of free throws. Not one team taking four times as many. Was Bradley really 4x more physical than Drake?

The Wardle technical wasn't earned. He didn't say anything and the guy all the way across the court called it.
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby tribecalledquest » February 19th, 2019, 10:51 pm

davidfast wrote:Starting 0-5 was the refs fault too right? Complaining about officiating is about as effective as yelling at the sun for rising, but to each their own.


Let's stay on topic. No strawmen. No one is talking about the 0-5 start.

I realize no one gives two craps about my posting history on this board. I've never been a "blame official" guy. I'm around the game way too much for that. But tonight was so unbelievably god awful. It really, truly was. Drake won. Good for them. But you can also acknowledge horrific officiating when it happens.

36 FT's to 9? Really?
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby Bear4Life » February 19th, 2019, 11:00 pm

I legit didnt care who won this game. If the Bears win their next 2 then it doesn’t matter what Drake does, it all comes down to the final game at the Q.

That said, I watched this whole game and don’t see how a non-biased fan would think that was fairly called.

Drake shot 36 free throws to 9! The second T on Wardle was terrible! He waved his hands at the ref and turned away. Wardle was in shock at the call and rightfully so! As a ref you have to realize there is some emotion in a big game and the call on D-Lo was very questionable that led to the T (especially considering the aforementioned foul disparity). The flagrant was probably the right call based on this years rules, but it was very incidental and just continued to keep the refs involved in the outcome of the game.

When you see a team out-shoot another team 48% to 36% and shoot the same from the 3-point line, that generally leads to a W.
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