MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

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Re: MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

Postby Kyle_Saluki_17 » March 3rd, 2025, 9:42 am

MissouriValleyUnite wrote:If Bradley sweeps next weekend, it’s all but a sure thing the Braves crack the top-75 and bump Drake to 2-0 in Q1.

And a Q2 loss instead of Q3. Just as big of a deal.
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Postby bradley_townie » March 3rd, 2025, 10:08 am

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Majik45 wrote:Anyone know why Jake basically pulled his starters yesterday in the Bradley UNI game? Jake pulled Titan Anderson out with 13 minutes left after an out of control move at the basket that saw him hit the floor hard. Looking back through the play by play, Jacob Hutson was pulled with 14 minutes to go. Schwieger was pulled with 11 minutes to go.

Those could have been normal Sub patterns to start, but then they didn't play the rest of the game. Maybe it was because Bradley built a 20 point lead in that time frame with 9 minutes to go, and he didn't want anyone to get injured. I just thought it was weird to yield the 2 seed with that much time left, especially when UNI drained back to back 3's to get it to a 12 point game at one point.


No need to run any more minutes onto those legs and no need to let Bradley get used to actions. I think it was a case of 'it's Bradley's day, lets just move on'. Schwieger and Tytan especially have been playing heavy minutes the last three weeks and Hutson has had a nagging ankle for pretty much all of the league season.

Plus, I think Jake likes the UIC matchup on Friday a heckuva lot more than Murray. UIC has looked completely lost in both matchups.


I would love to know if coaches actually check scores of other games while their own game is going on. Like is there an assistant hitting refresh on his phone and giving real-time updates to Jake about the UIC game? And then he decides to bench his players based on that info?
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Re: MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

Postby BCPanther » March 3rd, 2025, 10:25 am

bradley_townie wrote:
BCPanther wrote:
Majik45 wrote:Anyone know why Jake basically pulled his starters yesterday in the Bradley UNI game? Jake pulled Titan Anderson out with 13 minutes left after an out of control move at the basket that saw him hit the floor hard. Looking back through the play by play, Jacob Hutson was pulled with 14 minutes to go. Schwieger was pulled with 11 minutes to go.

Those could have been normal Sub patterns to start, but then they didn't play the rest of the game. Maybe it was because Bradley built a 20 point lead in that time frame with 9 minutes to go, and he didn't want anyone to get injured. I just thought it was weird to yield the 2 seed with that much time left, especially when UNI drained back to back 3's to get it to a 12 point game at one point.


No need to run any more minutes onto those legs and no need to let Bradley get used to actions. I think it was a case of 'it's Bradley's day, lets just move on'. Schwieger and Tytan especially have been playing heavy minutes the last three weeks and Hutson has had a nagging ankle for pretty much all of the league season.

Plus, I think Jake likes the UIC matchup on Friday a heckuva lot more than Murray. UIC has looked completely lost in both matchups.


I would love to know if coaches actually check scores of other games while their own game is going on. Like is there an assistant hitting refresh on his phone and giving real-time updates to Jake about the UIC game? And then he decides to bench his players based on that info?


I'd be shocked if Jake didn't know that UIC was ahead and that Murray was getting pounded at the time.
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Re: MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

Postby Bulldog4life24 » March 3rd, 2025, 10:43 am

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Bulldog2323 wrote:If Drake plays like they played in OT at Arch Madness, they'll have no problem making it to Sunday of Arch Madness and after a challenging game they'll be Arch Madness champions without having to sweat out the at-large question.

If Drake plays like they played the first 40 minutes today, in two weeks Drake will be scouting their NIT opponent.


Is there concern in Bulldog land about the # of minutes the Drake big three play?


IMO, Not really. We did fine with 3 games in 4 days in Charleston.

I expect that to continue, because:
- The summer conditioning program for Mac's program is insane (at least one potential transfer that we know about threw up trying to complete a workout)
- Our slower pace of play helps save legs. We're the slowest team in the country for a reason.
- We've played 5 OT games this year and won them all. If tired legs were going to beat us, they would have already
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Re: MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

Postby DUBulldog » March 3rd, 2025, 11:55 am

Bulldog4life24 wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:
Bulldog2323 wrote:If Drake plays like they played in OT at Arch Madness, they'll have no problem making it to Sunday of Arch Madness and after a challenging game they'll be Arch Madness champions without having to sweat out the at-large question.

If Drake plays like they played the first 40 minutes today, in two weeks Drake will be scouting their NIT opponent.


Is there concern in Bulldog land about the # of minutes the Drake big three play?


IMO, Not really. We did fine with 3 games in 4 days in Charleston.

I expect that to continue, because:
- The summer conditioning program for Mac's program is insane (at least one potential transfer that we know about threw up trying to complete a workout)
- Our slower pace of play


And, he now starts for another MVC team
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Re: MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

Postby Majik45 » March 3rd, 2025, 1:53 pm

ValleyFAN wrote:Is Missouri State the best last place team in the Valley? They can really hang with anyone. To be honest they probably should have swept Drake this year. Either Cuonzo is a heck of a coach to keep this group so close every time out...or the talent is actually better than we think and the coaching is not doing them any favors. Perhaps it could be a little bit of both.


13 of their 18 losses in conference were by 10 points or less (or in Overtime). They were 0-13 in games decided by less than 10 in the Valley. 10 points is an arbitrary number, but for example their game at Bradley was 9 points, but it was a close game into the last 3-4 minutes before Bradley made some free throws. It's crazy how learning to win close games is a thing.

For example it looks like Drake was 12-3 in conference games decided by 10 points or less. Bradley was 7-2 in conference games decided by 10 or less. It's a razor thin margin for error for sure.
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Re: MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

Postby Kyle_Saluki_17 » March 3rd, 2025, 2:42 pm

ValleyFAN wrote:Is Missouri State the best last place team in the Valley? They can really hang with anyone. To be honest they probably should have swept Drake this year. Either Cuonzo is a heck of a coach to keep this group so close every time out...or the talent is actually better than we think and the coaching is not doing them any favors. Perhaps it could be a little bit of both.

I’d be willing to bet that no previous 8 seed had ever had a stretch where they won 7 of 9. But here we are. And regardless of the hot streak, we still suck…because we are still the 8 seed.
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