MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby patnb » April 20th, 2020, 1:31 pm

DeAndre Williams - Evansville
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby VUGrad1314 » April 20th, 2020, 2:59 pm

Man that one really stings. I feel really bad for Aces fans with what has gone on this past year after having so much hope and optimism for their future. I hope Evansville's fortunes improve soon. If any fanbase deserves a period of sustained success over many years it's Evansville.
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby BCPanther » April 20th, 2020, 3:17 pm

How does Evansville's AD have a job? Seriously.

They're at the bottom of the league in everything. The McCarty hire had red flags that were obviously ignored and then he made a rash hire without a search for a coach in his mid-60s that hasn't been relevent in two decades and failed miserably at his last stop in the name of keeping players which he hasn't done.
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby tribecalledquest » April 20th, 2020, 3:46 pm

BCPanther wrote:How does Evansville's AD have a job? Seriously.

They're at the bottom of the league in everything. The McCarty hire had red flags that were obviously ignored and then he made a rash hire without a search for a coach in his mid-60s that hasn't been relevent in two decades and failed miserably at his last stop in the name of keeping players which he hasn't done.


Brutal.
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby AcesAces » April 20th, 2020, 7:03 pm

BCPanther wrote:How does Evansville's AD have a job? Seriously.

They're at the bottom of the league in everything. The McCarty hire had red flags that were obviously ignored and then he made a rash hire without a search for a coach in his mid-60s that hasn't been relevent in two decades and failed miserably at his last stop in the name of keeping players which he hasn't done.


How does the AD have a job is what all of Southern Indiana is wondering. But UE MBB is fine with Lickliter. Probably the best hire for UE since Jim Crews.
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby patnb » April 21st, 2020, 10:04 am

AcesAces wrote:
BCPanther wrote:How does Evansville's AD have a job? Seriously.

They're at the bottom of the league in everything. The McCarty hire had red flags that were obviously ignored and then he made a rash hire without a search for a coach in his mid-60s that hasn't been relevent in two decades and failed miserably at his last stop in the name of keeping players which he hasn't done.


How does the AD have a job is what all of Southern Indiana is wondering. But UE MBB is fine with Lickliter. Probably the best hire for UE since Jim Crews.

Is hiring a 65 year old coach who hasn't done anything of note in well over a decade that runs an out of date offense than Ben Jacobson thinks is boring and slow while conducting literally zero searches really a the best hire?

The "best" argument I've heard in favor of him is that he knew the kids from being an assistant and would keep key pieces in place. That hasn't happened.

Todd was going to be around this spring/summer. Now, no one could have predicted COVID and the potential impact on coaching changes back in December or January, however, that doesn't change that Todd was still going to be now and you'd have had a shot at looking at younger guys with more potential upside and appeal to recruits.
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby tribecalledquest » April 21st, 2020, 10:12 am

patnb wrote:
AcesAces wrote:
BCPanther wrote:How does Evansville's AD have a job? Seriously.

They're at the bottom of the league in everything. The McCarty hire had red flags that were obviously ignored and then he made a rash hire without a search for a coach in his mid-60s that hasn't been relevent in two decades and failed miserably at his last stop in the name of keeping players which he hasn't done.


How does the AD have a job is what all of Southern Indiana is wondering. But UE MBB is fine with Lickliter. Probably the best hire for UE since Jim Crews.

Is hiring a 65 year old coach who hasn't done anything of note in well over a decade that runs an out of date offense than Ben Jacobson thinks is boring and slow while conducting literally zero searches really a the best hire?

The "best" argument I've heard in favor of him is that he knew the kids from being an assistant and would keep key pieces in place. That hasn't happened.

Todd was going to be around this spring/summer. Now, no one could have predicted COVID and the potential impact on coaching changes back in December or January, however, that doesn't change that Todd was still going to be now and you'd have had a shot at looking at younger guys with more potential upside and appeal to recruits.


Agreed 100%.
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby ACECARD » April 21st, 2020, 10:15 am

AcesAces wrote:
BCPanther wrote:How does Evansville's AD have a job? Seriously.

They're at the bottom of the league in everything. The McCarty hire had red flags that were obviously ignored and then he made a rash hire without a search for a coach in his mid-60s that hasn't been relevent in two decades and failed miserably at his last stop in the name of keeping players which he hasn't done.


How does the AD have a job is what all of Southern Indiana is wondering. But UE MBB is fine with Lickliter. Probably the best hire for UE since Jim Crews.

The Aces were very competitive under Lickliter the last games of last season. I would have preferred a much younger, aggressive coach, but am willing to give him a chance to see what he can do. After 20 years of abject failure, what is one more year? I like the new players that the Aces will have next season, and still believe that they will win a couple MVC games. How's that for "GREAT EXPECTATIONS"?
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby AcesAces » April 21st, 2020, 10:29 am

patnb wrote:
AcesAces wrote:
BCPanther wrote:How does Evansville's AD have a job? Seriously.

They're at the bottom of the league in everything. The McCarty hire had red flags that were obviously ignored and then he made a rash hire without a search for a coach in his mid-60s that hasn't been relevent in two decades and failed miserably at his last stop in the name of keeping players which he hasn't done.


How does the AD have a job is what all of Southern Indiana is wondering. But UE MBB is fine with Lickliter. Probably the best hire for UE since Jim Crews.

Is hiring a 65 year old coach who hasn't done anything of note in well over a decade that runs an out of date offense than Ben Jacobson thinks is boring and slow while conducting literally zero searches really a the best hire?

The "best" argument I've heard in favor of him is that he knew the kids from being an assistant and would keep key pieces in place. That hasn't happened.

Todd was going to be around this spring/summer. Now, no one could have predicted COVID and the potential impact on coaching changes back in December or January, however, that doesn't change that Todd was still going to be now and you'd have had a shot at looking at younger guys with more potential upside and appeal to recruits.


1) His age has nothing to do with anything. 2) We haven't seen his offense at UE as he continued to run McCarty's during his time last year. 3) Jacobson can think what he wishes. Some people think his offense is kind of boring as well. 4) Why search and hire someone who is unproven? UE did that with McCarty and it flopped. The prior 2 coaches had experience and they flopped. Lickliter has proven to get tremendous results?

The best argument for Lickliter is that he has proven to get results, is a very good basketball mind, can stabilize the program without a complete rebuild and has plenty of experience.

The type of hire that you are desiring, younger, more potential upside and appeal to recruits, fails more times that it succeeds. McCarty is Exhibit 1. There are many, many more failures than success. The Brad Stevens' are not out there in 1,000s.
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby tribecalledquest » April 21st, 2020, 10:38 am

AcesAces wrote:The type of hire that you are desiring, younger, more potential upside and appeal to recruits, fails more times that it succeeds. McCarty is Exhibit 1. There are many, many more failures than success. The Brad Stevens' are not out there in 1,000s.


McCarthy is not Exhibit 1. He was an Exhibit from out in left field.
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