MVC Transfers 2022

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Re: MVC Transfers 2022

Postby Dansen » March 26th, 2022, 11:55 am

BEARZ77 wrote:When you look at the totality of the TP, it just shows no program is immune . A couple years ago several posters on here kinda self righteously proclaimed if you had a good culture and coach, you wouldn't lose transfers . But those programs have now lost top level players themselves, which isn't a mark against them, just verification that when you open up a market, people are gonna use it for all kinds of reasons.


Loyola Chicago would beg to differ. Never lost a transfer upward in the last decade. Multiple all valley guys transferred in
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Re: MVC Transfers 2022

Postby Action10 » March 26th, 2022, 1:00 pm

Dansen wrote:
BEARZ77 wrote:When you look at the totality of the TP, it just shows no program is immune . A couple years ago several posters on here kinda self righteously proclaimed if you had a good culture and coach, you wouldn't lose transfers . But those programs have now lost top level players themselves, which isn't a mark against them, just verification that when you open up a market, people are gonna use it for all kinds of reasons.


Loyola Chicago would beg to differ. Never lost a transfer upward in the last decade. Multiple all valley guys transferred in

Loyola has 1 conference tournament title and 0 NCAA Tournament wins since the mid-80's without Cam Krutwig. Porter Moser has 0 NCAA Tournament appearances in his career without Cam Krutwig.
Please stop me when I'm lying.....
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Re: MVC Transfers 2022

Postby BEARZ77 » March 26th, 2022, 1:35 pm

Dansen wrote:
BEARZ77 wrote:When you look at the totality of the TP, it just shows no program is immune . A couple years ago several posters on here kinda self righteously proclaimed if you had a good culture and coach, you wouldn't lose transfers . But those programs have now lost top level players themselves, which isn't a mark against them, just verification that when you open up a market, people are gonna use it for all kinds of reasons.


Loyola Chicago would beg to differ. Never lost a transfer upward in the last decade. Multiple all valley guys transferred in



You're just playing semantics and you're bad at it; you had multiple guys transfer out the last couple years. Weak attempt at a 1 up. Now go play on the A-10 board, they might buy your bs.
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Re: MVC Transfers 2022

Postby siudawgs » March 26th, 2022, 2:43 pm

BEARZ77 wrote:
Dansen wrote:
BEARZ77 wrote:When you look at the totality of the TP, it just shows no program is immune . A couple years ago several posters on here kinda self righteously proclaimed if you had a good culture and coach, you wouldn't lose transfers . But those programs have now lost top level players themselves, which isn't a mark against them, just verification that when you open up a market, people are gonna use it for all kinds of reasons.


Loyola Chicago would beg to differ. Never lost a transfer upward in the last decade. Multiple all valley guys transferred in



You're just playing semantics and you're bad at it; you had multiple guys transfer out the last couple years. Weak attempt at a 1 up. Now go play on the A-10 board, they might buy your bs.

I don't think it's just semantics at all. To me there's a big difference between losing good players to "upward" transfers as opposed to lateral or downward transfers, which in many cases are encouraged by the coaches to free up rides. And the larger point that Loyola has built a great culture that has allowed them to keep their core pieces is very much accurate.
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Re: MVC Transfers 2022

Postby bleach » March 26th, 2022, 3:38 pm

Everyone seems to be losing players but that doesn't mean they will be weaker automatically. There are multitudes of players in the portal that might fit your needs better than the ones leaving.
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Re: MVC Transfers 2022

Postby bleach » March 26th, 2022, 3:43 pm

Hooper wrote:
They've lost a ton of guys and Schertz is struggling to handle media at the DI level. I'm going to say not Indiana State.

The answer is Southern Illinois if Jones and Domask are back


If SIU wins the league with the same team they had last year, the league will be very bad.
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Re: MVC Transfers 2022

Postby goramblers2011 » March 26th, 2022, 6:04 pm

Action10 wrote:
Dansen wrote:
BEARZ77 wrote:When you look at the totality of the TP, it just shows no program is immune . A couple years ago several posters on here kinda self righteously proclaimed if you had a good culture and coach, you wouldn't lose transfers . But those programs have now lost top level players themselves, which isn't a mark against them, just verification that when you open up a market, people are gonna use it for all kinds of reasons.


Loyola Chicago would beg to differ. Never lost a transfer upward in the last decade. Multiple all valley guys transferred in

Loyola has 1 conference tournament title and 0 NCAA Tournament wins since the mid-80's without Cam Krutwig. Porter Moser has 0 NCAA Tournament appearances in his career without Cam Krutwig.
Please stop me when I'm lying.....


What does this have to do with his post, you clown?

Loyola could very well wake up tomorrow and hear that Quise or Braden or someone else is transferring to a P6. But his point is correct. They held on to Krut for four years. They held on to Custer. Held on to Lucas. Etc. That's impressive and has been the fuel to their recent success. Continuity is so important.
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Re: MVC Transfers 2022

Postby BEARZ77 » March 27th, 2022, 7:38 am

Don't disagree that continuity is important , but the point was everyone loses kids in the portal these days and Loyola has not been immune to this ; Agunanne, Wojcik, and Kaiffes are just the names that pop in my head w/o research, but there were others. What their roles would have been I don't know; I just made the point everyone has people leave. Some are players staff's may have facilitated , others probably left on their own accord, again, I wasn't differentiating or rationalizing, just pointing out facts. And i think lateral moves can be concerning, because it says they weren't leaving for a higher level or because they couldn't play at the same level, they just wanted somewhere different. You think it wasn't concerning to Georgia that Creen had 3 players transfer in conference, or more at home, that Valpo lost Donovan Clay in conference. Again various circumstances for each I'm sure, but the point is, everyone has players in the portal eventually.
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Re: MVC Transfers 2022

Postby Drakey » March 27th, 2022, 2:55 pm

The transfer craze at gr Valley level only started a few years ago when the NCAA started allowing transfers to P6 schools regularly without making them sit out. Loyola has been at or near the top of the conference since then. Players aren't going to be looking to leave if they are playing and on a team at the top of the conference. I'm also not sure Loyola had that many top prospects for moving up during that time. I'm not sure P6 teams are looking for a Krutwig. Great where he was, but I'm not sure he is doing that in the Big 12. Devries has lost two, and they were people who somebody convinced they were going to be stars on P6 teams. One of them was not likely to even start for the Bulldogs when he left.
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Re: MVC Transfers 2022

Postby siudawgs » March 27th, 2022, 4:05 pm

Drake likely would have won the Valley with Yesufu. Instead he’s riding pine at Kansas. Lose-lose.
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