Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

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Choose two: Who do you think the MVC should add?

Murray State
129
47%
Northern Kentucky
36
13%
UW-Milwaukee
13
5%
Oakland
1
0%
South Dakota State
12
4%
Southeast Missouri State
3
1%
Belmont
57
21%
Grand Canyon
6
2%
UT-Arlington
7
3%
Denver
13
5%
 
Total votes : 277

Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby IllinoisState » February 2nd, 2019, 2:41 am

With only 10 members the MVC is ripe for the picking if another conference offers something good. We need to shore up our numbers.

We added Loyola for their Chicago presence so why not add another and bring in Chicago State, a good travel partner. This brings us to 11.

We lost our Nebraska connection when Creighton left so let's add Omaha. This brings us to 12.

Again with the loss of Creighton and Wichita State Missouri State's nearest rival is much further away. Let's add UMKC, Southest Missouri State, and SIU - Edwardsville so Missouri State is happy with new teams' locations. This brings us to 15.

Why not break into SEC territory/the south and add Mississippi Valley State. This brings us to 16.

If every other school has a travel partner Mississippi Valley State needs one too. We add Prairie View A&M and get the Houston market in addition to a travel partner. This brings us to 17.

We need one more so we add NJIT and have the New York market. When it comes time to rework the TV contracts we make an MVC channel and cash in. This brings us to our final total of 18.

This now shores up our numbers and takes away the bus league image.

Other contenders: Western Illinois, Eastern Illinois, and UIC as a package. We already have a lot of Illinois teams so we can continue the theme. A combination of Nicholls State, Austin Peay, Youngstown State, and Lafayette so we can have member schools in continuous states since that means so much.
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby RacerJoeD » February 2nd, 2019, 10:17 am

Is your point that any expansion is the equivalent of adding SWAC teams?
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby Jsnhbe1Birds » February 2nd, 2019, 11:13 am

Nobody is getting picked from the mvc. I'm 100% sure about that
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby Dean Wormer » February 2nd, 2019, 7:03 pm

IllinoisState wrote:With only 10 members the MVC is ripe for the picking if another conference offers something good. We need to shore up our numbers.

We added Loyola for their Chicago presence so why not add another and bring in Chicago State, a good travel partner. This brings us to 11.

We lost our Nebraska connection when Creighton left so let's add Omaha. This brings us to 12.

Again with the loss of Creighton and Wichita State Missouri State's nearest rival is much further away. Let's add UMKC, Southest Missouri State, and SIU - Edwardsville so Missouri State is happy with new teams' locations. This brings us to 15.

Why not break into SEC territory/the south and add Mississippi Valley State. This brings us to 16.

If every other school has a travel partner Mississippi Valley State needs one too. We add Prairie View A&M and get the Houston market in addition to a travel partner. This brings us to 17.

We need one more so we add NJIT and have the New York market. When it comes time to rework the TV contracts we make an MVC channel and cash in. This brings us to our final total of 18.

This now shores up our numbers and takes away the bus league image.

Other contenders: Western Illinois, Eastern Illinois, and UIC as a package. We already have a lot of Illinois teams so we can continue the theme. A combination of Nicholls State, Austin Peay, Youngstown State, and Lafayette so we can have member schools in continuous states since that means so much.
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby VUGrad1314 » February 3rd, 2019, 2:59 pm

I'm pretty sure that post was sarcastic.
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby RacerJoeD » February 3rd, 2019, 4:45 pm

I had it pegged as an attempt at reducto ad absurdum
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby UNDfan » February 7th, 2019, 12:57 am

Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:Nobody is getting picked from the mvc. I'm 100% sure about that

That is an awfully strong and ,eternal statement.

Mo St had offers from the Belt and maybe CUSA to move up. They have made major gains against Mizzou as far as student,preference and Missouri can feed another FBS school.

Illinois St should move to FBS, as they are one of one a few schools in that state that have gotten stronger. The MAC is a natural for them.

Loyola can jump to the A10 now. The academis and prestige a re so much better than the MVC.
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby Jsnhbe1Birds » February 7th, 2019, 5:30 am

UNDfan wrote:
Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:Nobody is getting picked from the mvc. I'm 100% sure about that

That is an awfully strong and ,eternal statement.

Mo St had offers from the Belt and maybe CUSA to move up. They have made major gains against Mizzou as far as student,preference and Missouri can feed another FBS school.

Illinois St should move to FBS, as they are one of one a few schools in that state that have gotten stronger. The MAC is a natural for them.

Loyola can jump to the A10 now. The academis and prestige a re so much better than the MVC.


None of that is happening.
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby MOST » February 7th, 2019, 9:41 am

Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:
UNDfan wrote:
Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:


Mo St had offers from the Belt and maybe CUSA to move up. Missouri can feed another FBS school.


I don't think so!

MO State has never been a strong FB school--NAIA or D2 and now D1 FCS. SW MO has never been a strong, good but not strong, high school FB area. The clamor for MO State to go to FBS has died down with their money problems and since they fired Lusk and hired Ford. FBS was nothing but a very small bunch (2 or 3) vocal Bear FB fans. Plus, the Sun Belt is shifting east and shut MO State out. A move to CONF USA makes no sense--again FBS foot ball and no better BB.

The only thing I can see the Bears doing is if the Texas and western schools in the Sun Belt and Conf USA (TEX Ar, N. TEX, TEX State, UTSA, Tex El Paso, plus Tulsa U and N MEX State) would pull out and form a new SW Conf I could see Mo State signing on as a BB and FCS FB school. Could possibly pull in WSU. Potentially a number 9 or 10 conference in both BB and FB.

This becomes a stronger argument as the MVC keeps talking adding N Kentucky, Wright state, and whom ever--moving the foot print east---may cause UNI looking to the MT West or, YES, the Summit. That will make UNI fans scream!
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby BCPanther » February 7th, 2019, 11:01 am

MOST wrote:I don't think so!

MO State has never been a strong FB school--NAIA or D2 and now D1 FCS. SW MO has never been a strong, good but not strong, high school FB area. The clamor for MO State to go to FBS has died down with their money problems and since they fired Lusk and hired Ford. FBS was nothing but a very small bunch (2 or 3) vocal Bear FB fans. Plus, the Sun Belt is shifting east and shut MO State out. A move to CONF USA makes no sense--again FBS foot ball and no better BB.

The only thing I can see the Bears doing is if the Texas and western schools in the Sun Belt and Conf USA (TEX Ar, N. TEX, TEX State, UTSA, Tex El Paso, plus Tulsa U and N MEX State) would pull out and form a new SW Conf I could see Mo State signing on as a BB and FCS FB school. Could possibly pull in WSU. Potentially a number 9 or 10 conference in both BB and FB.

This becomes a stronger argument as the MVC keeps talking adding N Kentucky, Wright state, and whom ever--moving the foot print east---may cause UNI looking to the MT West or, YES, the Summit. That will make UNI fans scream!


UNI's long term dream league is the Mountain West (again long term goal, nothing imminent or anything remotely close to it at this point just a goal of where the administration wants budget and resources to get to). There would be a full on fan base revolt if UNI even looked at the Summit League. We left the old North Central Conference in the early 80s for a reason and there is not a chance in hell we want to go back to having to deal with Dakota schools again. SDSU is the only one that is forward looking and most of that is because all of their athletics administration came from UNI.

The amount that NDSU spends on football to be the tallest midget is both embarrassing and astounding plus they are going to find life without Chris Klieman to be something totally different than they're used to.
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