MVC Games Week 9

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Re: MVC Games Week 9

Postby BEARZ77 » January 7th, 2022, 3:00 pm

Birdfan2018 wrote:And maybe your Bears will be able to beat the Birds in Springfield (something they couldn’t do in Normal). Sad for you that the game in Normal probably cost the Bears any chance of winning the MVC Championship!



What are you, about 12. You seem intent on dissing the Bears, the problem being, you're really bad at it. If the first game of the conference season decides the race, then yeah I guess that sealed it, lmao. People are being kind to you right now by not going full bore on your silly takes; mostly just laughable.
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Re: MVC Games Week 9

Postby BEARZ77 » January 7th, 2022, 3:01 pm

Bearvision wrote:
Birdfan2018 wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:My example was not meant to satisfy you, or anyone else, it was just a way of expressing how I feel when I am watching Missouri State or Drake.


I, too, would be mad if my team lost this game.

That said, it's just a bad take, that doesn't even take into account the equation would also change if those players left (I.E. scholarships and playing time would open, meaning other transfers or recruits could take those spots).

The "if you they didn't have ____" argument is always short-sighted and fails to understand it's not Prim or an empty spot on the bench. You do get to use the scholarship on another player, and Ford's strength is recruiting, so I have no doubt they would have another good player in that spot.

Add to it Bradley has Mikey Howell on their roster, who has played more than 300 minutes on the season, whom they would not have without COVID and it's even more silly take to put out there.

You really probably should just stop while you're behind.


He's a Illinois St fan not Bradley, Vision.
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Re: MVC Games Week 9

Postby Adunk33 » January 7th, 2022, 3:33 pm

Are we just breaking news that older teams win in college basketball? Especially in this league.

Every team in the country had the ability to take advantage of some of the things that came out of the covid year. Opt outs, extra year, immediate eligibility for transfers. The Birds were young last season and only would've had Keith Fisher as a player who could've utilized a COVID year and he chose to do that at Pepperdine. Imagine if the COVID year would've been 2017...would you really have said no to another year of Paris Lee, Tony Wills, Teddy Hawkins and Mikyle McIntosh (Hawkins and McIntosh transferred but you get the point).

You can't hate on teams for taking advantage of a rule that everyone had the same ability to in varying levels.

As long as they got their core back, Loyola was always going to be the top team this year. And they did. Mo State getting an extra year of Prim is doing wonders for them. At Drake, getting back Tremell Murphy and Tank Hemphil gave them about 20 ppg this year. UNI brought back some super seniors as well.

Older teams win in most and especially this league. Just because the Birds didn't have anyone that took advantage of the COVID extra year at ISU doesn't make it the fault of the teams that did. Plus, the Birds took advantage from having Mark Freeman, and more importantly, Kendall Lewis available without sitting out.
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Re: MVC Games Week 9

Postby Action10 » January 8th, 2022, 8:33 am

BCPanther wrote:
Birdfan2018 wrote:Top 3 teams in conference: Loyola, Drake, Missouri State.


Writing off a finally healthy UNI is a bad, bad choice.

I think UNI is going to be a major factor and contend to win the MVC. They look like they have become what we all thought they would be (finally).
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Re: MVC Games Week 9

Postby Birdfan2018 » January 8th, 2022, 8:50 am

Action10 wrote:
BCPanther wrote:
Birdfan2018 wrote:Top 3 teams in conference: Loyola, Drake, Missouri State.


Writing off a finally healthy UNI is a bad, bad choice.

I think UNI is going to be a major factor and contend to win the MVC. They look like they have become what we all thought they would be (finally).

Definitely not writing the Panthers off, just wasn’t sure if you had any Super Seniors on your team, so didn’t list them in my conversation. Looking forward to watching your game with the Bears today. Should be a good one. Too bad Drake, Northern Iowa, and Missouri State didn’t take care of their non-conference games, as I thought going into the 2021-22 season they could all be NCAA Tournament teams.
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Re: MVC Games Week 9

Postby BCPanther » January 8th, 2022, 8:58 am

Berhow and Pickford are UNI's super seniors.

UNI only had two practices in the non-con where everyone was available. They've now been healthy (other than Phyfe) for 10 days and you're seeing what they really are.
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Re: MVC Games Week 9

Postby tribecalledquest » January 8th, 2022, 9:47 am

Adunk33 wrote:Are we just breaking news that older teams win in college basketball? Especially in this league.

Every team in the country had the ability to take advantage of some of the things that came out of the covid year. Opt outs, extra year, immediate eligibility for transfers. The Birds were young last season and only would've had Keith Fisher as a player who could've utilized a COVID year and he chose to do that at Pepperdine. Imagine if the COVID year would've been 2017...would you really have said no to another year of Paris Lee, Tony Wills, Teddy Hawkins and Mikyle McIntosh (Hawkins and McIntosh transferred but you get the point).

You can't hate on teams for taking advantage of a rule that everyone had the same ability to in varying levels.

As long as they got their core back, Loyola was always going to be the top team this year. And they did. Mo State getting an extra year of Prim is doing wonders for them. At Drake, getting back Tremell Murphy and Tank Hemphil gave them about 20 ppg this year. UNI brought back some super seniors as well.

Older teams win in most and especially this league. Just because the Birds didn't have anyone that took advantage of the COVID extra year at ISU doesn't make it the fault of the teams that did. Plus, the Birds took advantage from having Mark Freeman, and more importantly, Kendall Lewis available without sitting out.


Exactly.

Bradley complains about having to play the older teams - it’s a joke. They could have super seniors too but Elijah Childs decided to ruin it in Springfield last season.
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Re: MVC Games Week 9

Postby SalukiWorld » January 8th, 2022, 5:55 pm

Bradley is a good 1-3 team. Having trouble finishing games but wouldn't be surprised if they push their way to the top 5
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Re: MVC Games Week 9

Postby DUBulldog » January 8th, 2022, 6:13 pm

Drake extremely lucky to beat UE (and their refs) by 1. Most lopsided officiating I've ever seen
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Re: MVC Games Week 9

Postby BCPanther » January 8th, 2022, 9:41 pm

What a freaking duel between Green and Mosley in Springfield today. Just overall an incredibly well played game by both teams.

The top 4 are who we thought they were.
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