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Re: MVC Games Week 10 2024-25

Postby AcesAces » January 10th, 2025, 9:19 pm

AD1770 wrote:
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BigMacAttack wrote:Amen Aces 44.

Apparently Aces Aces was neither at the game nor watched it. Haffner tried retrieving a loose ball at half court to start a fast break, lost his legs, slid across the floor losing the ball, and eventually a foul was committed by a teammate diving into a scrum for the loose ball. Haffner was very upset with himself for not controlling the ball and reacted by pounding the floor. He came out of the game with no interaction with Coach Ragland and sat on the bench.

Any one who has seen Ragland coach knows he is very mild mannered. He will sometimes coach up a player as they come to the bench, but usually gives a fist bump and a congrats.

Nothing there there.


Actually there was an interaction between the player and the coach. It was heated. You didn't see it? Maybe you were watching the play on the court and not the bench. You actually think Haffner sat out 3/4 of the 2nd half because he was mad at himself for not being able to secure that loose ball? LOL.

I live in reality. The player was wrong for talking back to the coach. The coach was wrong for benching the player for the last 3/4 of the second half as the team is thin at the guard position right now and it possible cost the team what would have been a great MVC home victory against a team the Aces have only beaten once in the last several years. I see the bigger picture. You don't. You only see what you think makes you feel good about it.


Ya know, if the Aces had made free throws and lay ups all game against Indiana State, they win going away. Haffner sitting did not have the effect you want to make out. If we make free throws and lay ups, we are up big with a couple of minutes to go. And a lot of that happened in the first half when Haffner was in the game.


But they haven't made free throws and lay ups the entire year.

I will go very slowly on this part since you are not grasping it well. When your team only has 3 MVC-ready guards you do not have the luxury of sitting one of those guards for the final 3/4 of the second half. If as a coach, you risk losing the game, knowing that you are thin in that position, you better be right. He was wrong.

I'm going to go slowly on this part as well for the same reasons as above. Haffner is having a very good year. He is probably at least 3rd team all MVC. He shouldn't be talking back to the coach. However, there are better ways for the coach to discipline him. Ways that would not impact the game at hand.

It isn't my fault, that UE is thin at the guard position, but because they are thin at that most important position, sitting out one of those guards for the last 3/4 of the second half was a poor decision by the coach.

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Re: MVC Games Week 10 2024-25

Postby AcesAces » January 10th, 2025, 9:22 pm

Purple35 wrote:It occurs to me that AcesAces has staked out an opinion and rather than concede it could be wrong, he/she/it doubles down on it. Honestly, in the end -- what's the difference? Ragland had players on the court who are being coached to play well enough to win. If you make an argument and don't persuade anybody after 4 or 5 pages on a sports blog, maybe try something different.


My opinion isn't wrong. I am not "doubling down on it," I am defending it against people who dislike it.

He didn't have players on the court who could win as they didn't win. He hurt the players and the team over what is probably his hurt feelings. We should want him to transcend his personal feelings and lead the team, collect it, regroup and finish out the win.
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Re: MVC Games Week 10 2024-25

Postby Aces44 » January 10th, 2025, 9:34 pm

AcesAces wrote:
Purple35 wrote:It occurs to me that AcesAces has staked out an opinion and rather than concede it could be wrong, he/she/it doubles down on it. Honestly, in the end -- what's the difference? Ragland had players on the court who are being coached to play well enough to win. If you make an argument and don't persuade anybody after 4 or 5 pages on a sports blog, maybe try something different.


My opinion isn't wrong. I am not "doubling down on it," I am defending it against people who dislike it.

He didn't have players on the court who could win as they didn't win. He hurt the players and the team over what is probably his hurt feelings. We should want him to transcend his personal feelings and lead the team, collect it, regroup and finish out the win.


You are an insufferable loser. Your opinion about how many MVC ready Guards we have is irrelevant and no one cares what you think about Rags decisions.

This whole thought that you know better than Rags is laughable. Seriously, Get Bent.
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Re: MVC Games Week 10 2024-25

Postby Purple35 » January 10th, 2025, 9:57 pm

AcesAces wrote:
Purple35 wrote:It occurs to me that AcesAces has staked out an opinion and rather than concede it could be wrong, he/she/it doubles down on it. Honestly, in the end -- what's the difference? Ragland had players on the court who are being coached to play well enough to win. If you make an argument and don't persuade anybody after 4 or 5 pages on a sports blog, maybe try something different.


My opinion isn't wrong. I am not "doubling down on it," I am defending it against people who dislike it.

He didn't have players on the court who could win as they didn't win. He hurt the players and the team over what is probably his hurt feelings. We should want him to transcend his personal feelings and lead the team, collect it, regroup and finish out the win.

"Probably" hurt feelings isn't advancing your obstinance. If you don't KNOW whose feelings were hurt, perhaps leaving that out of your pointless reply would be preferable. You keep saying the same thing over and over again as a defense of something you are now claiming is "probably" hurt feelings. Ragland is paid to coach the team. You are entitled to an opinion, and that's all it is. You are now turning this into an attack on the man's character. I suggest you find a different hobby.
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Re: MVC Games Week 10 2024-25

Postby Purple35 » January 10th, 2025, 10:08 pm

Purple35 wrote:
AcesAces wrote:
Purple35 wrote:It occurs to me that AcesAces has staked out an opinion and rather than concede it could be wrong, he/she/it doubles down on it. Honestly, in the end -- what's the difference? Ragland had players on the court who are being coached to play well enough to win. If you make an argument and don't persuade anybody after 4 or 5 pages on a sports blog, maybe try something different.


My opinion isn't wrong. I am not "doubling down on it," I am defending it against people who dislike it.

He didn't have players on the court who could win as they didn't win. He hurt the players and the team over what is probably his hurt feelings. We should want him to transcend his personal feelings and lead the team, collect it, regroup and finish out the win.

By the way, defending your point of view over and over again against people who dislike it is the precise definition of "doubling down".
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Re: MVC Games Week 10 2024-25

Postby ReZyNeZy » January 10th, 2025, 10:18 pm

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Thought I'd link your forum as this s*** is getting reeeeealy pathetic and sad. From both of you. If you wanna argue. Take this s*** back to your page. I
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Re: MVC Games Week 10 2024-25

Postby Aces44 » January 10th, 2025, 10:25 pm

ReZyNeZy wrote:https://purpleaceplace.freeforums.net/

Thought I'd link your forum as this s*** is getting reeeeealy pathetic and sad. From both of you. If you wanna argue. Take this s*** back to your page. I


Why, so you can get back to telling us how scared everyone is to play at the ARC?
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Re: MVC Games Week 10 2024-25

Postby ReZyNeZy » January 10th, 2025, 10:53 pm

Aces44 wrote:
ReZyNeZy wrote:https://purpleaceplace.freeforums.net/

Thought I'd link your forum as this s*** is getting reeeeealy pathetic and sad. From both of you. If you wanna argue. Take this s*** back to your page. I


Why, so you can get back to telling us how scared everyone is to play at the ARC?


Buddy every time I have mentioned the ARC has been past tense. People used to be scared of the ARC but that's 10 years ago. But also, not the time or place. Although its not as pathetic as your Aces not winning a conference title in what? Near 30 years. And even then that's a regular season title. You have yet to win an MVC title and you had the gall to claim you could have been Zaga? Youve been going at it all day. Let it go. I have no quarell with other aces fans. You are just plain insufferable.
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Re: MVC Games Week 10 2024-25

Postby Aces44 » January 11th, 2025, 1:06 am

ReZyNeZy wrote:
Aces44 wrote:
ReZyNeZy wrote:https://purpleaceplace.freeforums.net/

Thought I'd link your forum as this s*** is getting reeeeealy pathetic and sad. From both of you. If you wanna argue. Take this s*** back to your page. I


Why, so you can get back to telling us how scared everyone is to play at the ARC?


Buddy every time I have mentioned the ARC has been past tense. People used to be scared of the ARC but that's 10 years ago. But also, not the time or place. Although its not as pathetic as your Aces not winning a conference title in what? Near 30 years. And even then that's a regular season title. You have yet to win an MVC title and you had the gall to claim you could have been Zaga? Youve been going at it all day. Let it go. I have no quarell with other aces fans. You are just plain insufferable.

LOL no one has ever been scared to play in your HS gym
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Re: MVC Games Week 10 2024-25

Postby just ducky » January 11th, 2025, 8:51 am

How about we get back to talking week 10 Valley basketball?

6 competitive and important games today and I'm going with the home team for all of them.
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