Another Expansion/Realignment Thread

[Bulldog4life24]

This article in the Athletic really sold me on adding St. Thomas:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/617733 ... st-thomas/

I was kind of meh on them before but this add would make a lot of sense. This should be the MVC’s number one target.

Let dream big and go after Memphis. The MVC is better than the AAC. Replacing Missouri State with Memphis probably moves the MVC up to maybe 6 or 7. So if Memphis is not going to ACC,Big East, Big 10, Big 12, or SEC than come join the MVC. You’ll have Belmont, Murray State, Southern Illinois, and Evansville all within two hours.

On the off chance this isn't sarcasm (sorry if it is) Memphis is not giving up their TV money. also the AAC just became the first conference to institute a minimum revshare of $10M. Unless everyone here has a couple Mil lying around, I don't think we're getting that

[MissouriValleyUnite]

Memphis makes over $7 million in media revenue and their exit fee is $10 million. Outside of the P4, there's only 2 conferences who *might* be able to give them a revenue-positive offer: Pac-12, Big East (FB would have to be parked elsewhere).

Memphis isn't in the realm of possibility.

[tribecalledquest]

From the conversations I had in STL it seems the Valley is more than fine sitting at 11. They aren’t going to add just to add. 20 game round robin basketball schedule.

[BUFanatic]

Head over to the Bradley board for a laugh at their ridiculous (or possibly plausible?) view about BU/Drake. Gotta say as a BU fan if we're were invited to a league like that it would be hard to turn down as much as I bleed for the MVC. Would prefer those teams have to join the MVC and we can keep the name lol.

[BCPanther]

From the conversations I had in STL it seems the Valley is more than fine sitting at 11. They aren’t going to add just to add. 20 game round robin basketball schedule.

Yup. I'll be shocked if there is an add in the next couple of years. No one has any idea what the financial model of the NCAA Tournament is going to look like in the future.

Jake would actually prefer going back to 18 but I'm not sure there is enough consensus to get that done. Guaranteeing yourself extra losses is really dumb but it's also hard to schedule for newer staffs. I get both sides of the argument.

[squirrel]

Head over to the Bradley board for a laugh at their ridiculous (or possibly plausible?) view about BU/Drake. Gotta say as a BU fan if we're were invited to a league like that it would be hard to turn down as much as I bleed for the MVC. Would prefer those teams have to join the MVC and we can keep the name lol.

As the OP of said ridiculous post - it merely postures a scenario where the ACC and Big East membership are coordinating or working together and discussing merger. I don't see a wholesale merger. The ACC will have little interest in or use for a number of Big East teams. I see them only interested in UConn, Villanova, St. John's and Georgetown. Maybe Marquette, but they would be a geographic outlier.

That would shut out

Seton Hall
Providence

Butler
Creighton
De Paul
Marquette
Xavier

I don't see those schools being shutout as unrealistic.

But you need more than 5 to make a league, and it makes no sense for Seton Hall and Providence to remain attached to the others.

So the next 3 obvious picks would be Dayton, Loyola and SLU gets them to 8.

Bradley and Drake could conceivably round the league out to get to 10.

In the east, you can see a similar split of the A10 and MAAC joining Seton Hall and Providence

Davidson
Duquesne
Iona
George Mason
George Washington
Providence
Rhode Island
Richmond
Seton Hall
St. Bonaventure
St. Joseph's
VCU

[squirrel]

Matt Brown tweeted yesterday that a number of schools are considering reclassfying OUT of DI in time for July.

[BCPanther]

Matt Brown tweeted yesterday that a number of schools are considering reclassfying OUT of DI in time for July.

He then clarified it and said everything he's hearing is that it's the small schools in the Northeast that shouldn't have been in DI anyway. Think NEC, Patriot League and America East. There may be others but if there is wholesale movement, that's where it will come from.

[MissouriValleyUnite]

Matt Brown tweeted yesterday that a number of schools are considering reclassfying OUT of DI in time for July.

He then clarified it and said everything he's hearing is that it's the small schools in the Northeast that shouldn't have been in DI anyway. Think NEC, Patriot League and America East. There may be others but if there is wholesale movement, that's where it will come from.

He mentioned New Orleans on BlueSky a few weeks ago, so we already know one. The Privateers also lost their HC to be an AC for ISUb recently.

I think it’ll be New Orleans, the Presbyterian Blue Hoes, and an assortment of NEC/MAAC schools. Maybe the non-FB pair in the MEAC (UMES, Coppin St).

(Patriot League schools are too wealthy and America East schools are mostly state flagships/mid-sized publics.)

Saint Peter’s is one school who, institutionally, screams it should be them. But they went to the Elite 8 just a few years ago.

[harley93davidson]

Head over to the Bradley board for a laugh at their ridiculous (or possibly plausible?) view about BU/Drake. Gotta say as a BU fan if we're were invited to a league like that it would be hard to turn down as much as I bleed for the MVC. Would prefer those teams have to join the MVC and we can keep the name lol.

As the OP of said ridiculous post - it merely postures a scenario where the ACC and Big East membership are coordinating or working together and discussing merger. I don't see a wholesale merger. The ACC will have little interest in or use for a number of Big East teams. I see them only interested in UConn, Villanova, St. John's and Georgetown. Maybe Marquette, but they would be a geographic outlier.

That would shut out

Seton Hall
Providence

Butler
Creighton
De Paul
Marquette
Xavier

I don't see those schools being shutout as unrealistic.

But you need more than 5 to make a league, and it makes no sense for Seton Hall and Providence to remain attached to the others.

So the next 3 obvious picks would be Dayton, Loyola and SLU gets them to 8.

Bradley and Drake could conceivably round the league out to get to 10.

In the east, you can see a similar split of the A10 and MAAC joining Seton Hall and Providence

Davidson
Duquesne
Iona
George Mason
George Washington
Providence
Rhode Island
Richmond
Seton Hall
St. Bonaventure
St. Joseph's
VCU

This is just a fantasy that will never happen. Excluding UConn, not a single big east school would accept an acc invitation. The entire catastrophic meltdown that the big east had a decade ago, was almost singularly based on the basketball/football schism the conference had. No one without fbs football is leaving a stable basketball focused league that is the premier bb focused league to join a football league that is already being sized up for poaching by the big ten and sec as we speak.