Does Marshall stay at WSU?

[WSUbballer]

Hey Tyler,

You find me a high RPI school that is willing to come to Koch, get their number, and get back to me. Otherwise..

It's pretty easy to pick apart the worst of a team's schedule. I think even the best schedules have those. While WSU had some soft spots on the schedule, they had the best OOC in the Valley. So in that regard, Marshall has that on his side.

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Instead of posting home games why don't you post SOS, specifically out of conference. Thanks

On top of that he has said consistently that WSU had chances and they just didn't get it done.

However we all know this league blows big ones. You can sit back and say WSU isn't doing much either but one thing you can't say is that a loss to WSU in the last two years would have been a killer in the RPI. Nor can you say a win over WSU didn't count as a quality win the last two years.

All marshall has said about any school wanting to hire him was that he was contacted by 3 schools, had further contact with 2, and had even more conversations with 1.

[DoubleJayAlum]

So, it sounds like NCSU hired Gottried for $1.2 million.

We are really supposed to believe they offered Marshall $700k more a year, despite the fact that his best finish is at WSU is second with zero NCAA appearances? Is an NIT title worth $700k?

You know DoubleJay, I don't really give a rat's backside what you or anyone else in the Valley believes (and I am not trying to get a rise out of anyone). NC State is not going to comment on it and Marshall has already said he will not discuss which schools contacted him and what was discussed. Remember that NC State had struck out with all their so-called "A" coaches and then when they couldn't get a "stellar" hire (their fans' words, not mine), they waited for Smart (with Marshall and Cronin next). How true all this is we may never know. Marshall won't talk out of privacy concerns for the schools that contacted him, and the schools sure aren't going to say because they would have to admit another one turned them down.

It doesn't matter to me and I'm sure it doesn't matter to most Shocker fans. What matters to us is that Marshall will coach WSU next year. How long we will have him, I don't think even he knows. But all is good in Shocker Nation for right now because he will be there at least one more year. We'll just take one year at a time, thanks.

You know what Shox21? Fair enough. What you said certainly seems true for you and some WSU fans.

Other WSU fans, however, couldn't wait to run over here and boast about how much money they think that Marshall turned down. When asked for verification, those people got angry.

Good for WSU for keeping their coach. I just don't believe the $1.9 million dollar figure.

[DoubleJayAlum]

So, it sounds like NCSU hired Gottried for $1.2 million.

We are really supposed to believe they offered Marshall $700k more a year, despite the fact that his best finish is at WSU is second with zero NCAA appearances? Is an NIT title worth $700k?

You know DoubleJay, I don't really give a rat's backside what you or anyone else in the Valley believes (and I am not trying to get a rise out of anyone). NC State is not going to comment on it and Marshall has already said he will not discuss which schools contacted him and what was discussed. Remember that NC State had struck out with all their so-called "A" coaches and then when they couldn't get a "stellar" hire (their fans' words, not mine), they waited for Smart (with Marshall and Cronin next). How true all this is we may never know. Marshall won't talk out of privacy concerns for the schools that contacted him, and the schools sure aren't going to say because they would have to admit another one turned them down.

It doesn't matter to me and I'm sure it doesn't matter to most Shocker fans. What matters to us is that Marshall will coach WSU next year. How long we will have him, I don't think even he knows. But all is good in Shocker Nation for right now because he will be there at least one more year. We'll just take one year at a time, thanks.

He is just sulking like the rest of the Bluejay fans. The coach they hate so much will be a thorn in their side for at least one more year.

Why am I sulking? Essentially Marshall has had about the same results at WSU as Jankovich has had at IlSU (although Jank has been in the tourney championship one more time than Marshall). Neither has yet to win a conference regular season or conference title or lead his team to the NCAA tourney at their respective school.

I suspected that Marshall would return for another year and even said that elsewhere. He knows what he has coming back and knows he can make another run. At the end of next season is when WSU fans should be worried.

[DoubleJayAlum]

Instead of posting home games why don't you post SOS, specifically out of conference. Thanks

On top of that he has said consistently that WSU had chances and they just didn't get it done.

However we all know this league blows big ones. You can sit back and say WSU isn't doing much either but one thing you can't say is that a loss to WSU in the last two years would have been a killer in the RPI. Nor can you say a win over WSU didn't count as a quality win the last two years.

All marshall has said about any school wanting to hire him was that he was contacted by 3 schools, had further contact with 2, and had even more conversations with 1.

WSU did have the best noncon this past season. Of course, it was propped up by the MWC-MVC challenge game against San Diego St and the exempt tourney. Take those away and the noncon schedule really doesn't look much different than most of the other Valley schools.

[RoyalShock]

Instead of posting home games why don't you post SOS, specifically out of conference. Thanks

On top of that he has said consistently that WSU had chances and they just didn't get it done.

However we all know this league blows big ones. You can sit back and say WSU isn't doing much either but one thing you can't say is that a loss to WSU in the last two years would have been a killer in the RPI. Nor can you say a win over WSU didn't count as a quality win the last two years.

All marshall has said about any school wanting to hire him was that he was contacted by 3 schools, had further contact with 2, and had even more conversations with 1.

WSU did have the best noncon this past season. Of course, it was propped up by the MWC-MVC challenge game against San Diego St and the exempt tourney. Take those away and the noncon schedule really doesn't look much different than most of the other Valley schools.

Those games (Maui, SDSU) were scheduled before most of the home non-con, so Marshall already knew he was going to have tough games. The main point is that TylerDurden tried to deride our non-con using select games, completely ignoring the fact WSU had the best SOS in the conference, even before the post-season.

But to address your point, you can't just say, had WSU not played the exempt tourney and SDSU the schedule would look like the other Valley schools. Take those school's 2-3 best RPI games away and then compare. That would be apples-to-apples.

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Why am I sulking? Essentially Marshall has had about the same results at WSU as Jankovich has had at IlSU (although Jank has been in the tourney championship one more time than Marshall). Neither has yet to win a conference regular season or conference title or lead his team to the NCAA tourney at their respective school.

I hate that we have to bring ISU red into this but since you brought it up.

Jank has gone for 25, 24, 22, then 12 wins. That line goes down. (Granted they should be better next year but I don't see them being top 4).

Marshall has gone for 11, 17, 24, then 28. That line goes up. Including an NIT championship, which isn't the NCAA but if we are comparing what the two coaches have done then lets compare.

I like Jank and have nothing against him but Marshall and Jank have not done the same thing in 4 years.

[iSASO]

Marshall won 29 games this year, not 28.

Bagging on WSU's non-con SOS is assinine. If they would have scheduled tougher home games, WSU would have had the best non-con SOS by 60 points instead of 20-30 points. Was that your point? To criticize WSU for being the best by only a mile instead of by two miles?
And yes, WSU scheduled the home cupcakes partly out of taking what you can get and partly because they already knew the Maui Classic and the SDSU game would put them in a nice SOS position overall.

What do schools 2-10 have to say?

Why are KU and K-State playing in Wichita next season but not in Koch Arena and not against WSU? Is it because WSU is avoiding them? Are those the games WSU is expected to schedule to satisfy you? Maybe you can broker the deal with those scare-dy cats. Mark Turgeon himself couldn't get KU to accept a single, nationally-televised game in Allen Fieldhouse with WSU - no return game. Maybe you can do better.

K-State won't even play a scrimmage game with WSU these days. They bailed out before the season began.

How about Virginia Tech or Alabama? Maybe Washington State or Nebraska is just dying to come to Wichita to get another merciless pounding. All we have to do is ask, right?

[Shox21]

You know what Shox21? Fair enough. What you said certainly seems true for you and some WSU fans.

Other WSU fans, however, couldn't wait to run over here and boast about how much money they think that Marshall turned down. When asked for verification, those people got angry.

Good for WSU for keeping their coach. I just don't believe the $1.9 million dollar figure.

I know what you are saying about the WSU fans coming over on this board and boasting. I can't control what other fans do. But every fanbase has those you would rather not recognize and WSU is no different. I don't know where the $1.9 Mil came from originally, but WSU fans DID NOTmake it up. This was reported on ESPN Insider's "Rumors". Once again, no "confirmation", it is a "rumor", and it does say "reportedly passed", but ESPN is where I first heard the figure:

"NC State's coaching search took a hit on Monday. Actually, it took three; VCU's Shaka Smart, Wichita State's Gregg Marshall and Cincinnati's Mick Cronin all were eliminated from the mix. In one day, the three perceived leading candidates for the Wolfpack job elected to stay at their current schools. Smart and Cronin signed new deals, while Marshall reportedly passed up a $1.9 million offer to remain at Wichita State for a base salary of $800,000 a season."

Take it for what it's worth, which at this point is not much because IT DOESN'T MATTER. And, yes, we are well aware that we have him for one year -- a year at a time. Right now, that will do.

[unipanther99]

What do schools 2-10 have to say?

Pretty much the same thing. UNI follows about the same formula, get a strong preseason tournament with good programs. Fill the rest with the best you can, go on the road to play Syracuse (like WSU has done before). The only difference is we play the in-state schools in Iowa, but I understand WSU can't really control that.

The formula is the same, the intangibles fluctuate year-to-year.