2011-12 Non-Con Schedules

[STL MVC]

Indiana State should win the Old Spice Classic. Fairfield is probably the stiffest competition and that is not an exaggeration. Arizona State, DePaul and Wake Forest were three of the worst BCS-conference teams in the nation last year. I'm a Gillispie guy but Tech lost its entire lineup from a bad team. Dayton and Minnesota also missed the NCAAs last year.

Normally the Old Spice is by far my favorite Thanksgiving tourney. A lot can change from pre-season expectations, but right now this year's field doesn't look very good.

Should? SHOULD?? You know, you're right. Jake Odum will undress Jahii Carson when they match up. No comparison. SHOULD?

Well at least we know the conference RPI will be up next year. Looking forward to replacing losses to Ball State, Eastern Kentucky, Loyola and Wyoming with wins over Arizona State, Minnesota and Texas Tech.

Some of you are making the entire league look like a collection of persons served. Should........

Indiana State beat DePaul by 22 points last year. And you do know that Arizona State and Wake Forest finished in dead last in their respective leagues? My argument has nothing to do with the strength of the Valley, or even my expectations for Indiana State. This Old Spice field is GOD AWFUL... the worst I've ever seen it. Tech has a completely new roster and hasn't been relevant in about four years. Minnesota finished 1-10 down the stretch last year. Dayton won 7 games in the A-10.

Maybe those teams will see some surprise improvement next year. Who knows? But if you're looking at the field based on pre-season expectations, Fairfield and Indiana State are probably the best teams there. ISU is the only team that made the NCAAS from this field, and Fairfield won its league's regular season title. Both bring back the majority of their rosters. I know how insane that sounds, but in this case it's not a mid-major bias. Those teams are terrible. Arizona State, Wake Forest, DePaul, Texas Tech, Dayton and Minnesota would not have finished in the top 3 of the Valley last year.

[panther-state]

Indiana State should win the Old Spice Classic. Fairfield is probably the stiffest competition and that is not an exaggeration. Arizona State, DePaul and Wake Forest were three of the worst BCS-conference teams in the nation last year. I'm a Gillispie guy but Tech lost its entire lineup from a bad team. Dayton and Minnesota also missed the NCAAs last year.

Normally the Old Spice is by far my favorite Thanksgiving tourney. A lot can change from pre-season expectations, but right now this year's field doesn't look very good.

Should? SHOULD?? You know, you're right. Jake Odum will undress Jahii Carson when they match up. No comparison. SHOULD?

Well at least we know the conference RPI will be up next year. Looking forward to replacing losses to Ball State, Eastern Kentucky, Loyola and Wyoming with wins over Arizona State, Minnesota and Texas Tech.

Some of you are making the entire league look like a collection of persons served. Should........

Indiana State beat DePaul by 22 points last year. And you do know that Arizona State and Wake Forest finished in dead last in their respective leagues? My argument has nothing to do with the strength of the Valley, or even my expectations for Indiana State. This Old Spice field is GOD AWFUL... the worst I've ever seen it. Tech has a completely new roster and hasn't been relevant in about four years. Minnesota finished 1-10 down the stretch last year. Dayton won 7 games in the A-10.

Maybe those teams will see some surprise improvement next year. Who knows? But if you're looking at the field based on pre-season expectations, Fairfield and Indiana State are probably the best teams there. ISU is the only team that made the NCAAS from this field, and Fairfield won its league's regular season title. Both bring back the majority of their rosters. I know how insane that sounds, but in this case it's not a mid-major bias. Those teams are terrible. Arizona State, Wake Forest, DePaul, Texas Tech, Dayton and Minnesota would not have finished in the top 3 of the Valley last year.

A little definitive but I'd say you make some pretty solid points. I think Minnesota is a decent team though, finishing 1-10 last season may be a telling point but that's still a strong program

[DUBulldog]

Looks like Drake will play Ole Miss in the 1st round of the Paradise Jam, then either Norfolk State or Drexel in round 2

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/marq/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2011-paradisebracket.pdf

[wildjays]

The latest schedule update is that the Utah State @ Wichita State game has been set for December 10th. Source: Utah State will be releasing their schedule on Wednesday sometime.

[LMS]

I'm pretty happy with Creighton's schedule this year. Home games with Nebraska and Northwestern. A close, neutral site game vs Iowa. The Tulsa series starts this year and it sounds like another CUSA team might get scheduled as well. I can't wait for the season to start.

[BirdmanBB]

Wild Jays...

After looking at the white and Blue projected schedules, I noticed an error for ISUr. Right now we are unsure of what is going on with the Western Michigan return. Also, for 2012-13, we do not have a return from Fresno St. For playing at their place this year, we are simply guaranteed a home game for the MVC/MWC challenge in 2012-13.

[wildjays]

Wild Jays...

After looking at the white and Blue projected schedules, I noticed an error for ISUr. Right now we are unsure of what is going on with the Western Michigan return. Also, for 2012-13, we do not have a return from Fresno St. For playing at their place this year, we are simply guaranteed a home game for the MVC/MWC challenge in 2012-13.

Yeah, I had been hanging on to the Western Michigan thing because it was so up in the air. But after doing a little more research and seeing Western Michigan slowly filling in their schedule including Duke and SIU, if the game did happen this season, it would likely have to be in December some time. So I'll throw it back into 2012-13 for now.

And for some reason I had thought I read that the Fresno State game was a home and home outside of the whole MVC/MWC challenge, but I likely had that wrong. I just changed that to an MVC/MWC Challenge home game in 2012-13.

Thanks for clarifying some of that. Anybody else notice any updates needed?

http://whiteandbluereview.com/?page_id=293#schedule

[wildjays]

Northern Iowa plays Northern State in an Exhibition on October 30th.

http://nsuwolvesathletics.com/news/2011 ... 15038.aspx

[TNMSUFAN]

Missouri State will have another exhibition and I believe our two home games for the Las Vegas Classic are Kennesaw St and Texas A&M Corpus Christi

[jlandrus11]

You never know with the field at the Old Spice Classic this year. I mean who would have thought that ISU would have won the MVC and make the NCAA before the season, because I sure didn't. I expected us to compete but with a first year head coach I didn't think we would do that. You never know until the season starts and see what everyone has. I expect a great tournament and I hope Indiana State brings home the trophy.