Another Expansion/Realignment Thread

[BCPanther]

Head over to the Bradley board for a laugh at their ridiculous (or possibly plausible?) view about BU/Drake. Gotta say as a BU fan if we're were invited to a league like that it would be hard to turn down as much as I bleed for the MVC. Would prefer those teams have to join the MVC and we can keep the name lol.

As the OP of said ridiculous post - it merely postures a scenario where the ACC and Big East membership are coordinating or working together and discussing merger. I don't see a wholesale merger. The ACC will have little interest in or use for a number of Big East teams. I see them only interested in UConn, Villanova, St. John's and Georgetown. Maybe Marquette, but they would be a geographic outlier.

That would shut out

Seton Hall
Providence

Butler
Creighton
De Paul
Marquette
Xavier

I don't see those schools being shutout as unrealistic.

But you need more than 5 to make a league, and it makes no sense for Seton Hall and Providence to remain attached to the others.

So the next 3 obvious picks would be Dayton, Loyola and SLU gets them to 8.

Bradley and Drake could conceivably round the league out to get to 10.

In the east, you can see a similar split of the A10 and MAAC joining Seton Hall and Providence

Davidson
Duquesne
Iona
George Mason
George Washington
Providence
Rhode Island
Richmond
Seton Hall
St. Bonaventure
St. Joseph's
VCU

That's awesome. In related news, UNI is joining a league with:

Minnesota State Screaming Eagles
VCU
Chaminade
Alaska Fairbanks
Florida Gulf Coast
Wartburg
Alabama
New Orleans Saints
Johns Hopkins
New York Yankees
Washington Generals

Fantasy. Basketball only schools have next to no value to the ACC and the Big East schools are never getting into bed with football schools on a wholesale basis ever again.

I know there's some weird superiority complex over public schools but Bradley and Drake are in the right league no matter how much you hate to admit it.

[harley93davidson]

Head over to the Bradley board for a laugh at their ridiculous (or possibly plausible?) view about BU/Drake. Gotta say as a BU fan if we're were invited to a league like that it would be hard to turn down as much as I bleed for the MVC. Would prefer those teams have to join the MVC and we can keep the name lol.

As the OP of said ridiculous post - it merely postures a scenario where the ACC and Big East membership are coordinating or working together and discussing merger. I don't see a wholesale merger. The ACC will have little interest in or use for a number of Big East teams. I see them only interested in UConn, Villanova, St. John's and Georgetown. Maybe Marquette, but they would be a geographic outlier.

That would shut out

Seton Hall
Providence

Butler
Creighton
De Paul
Marquette
Xavier

I don't see those schools being shutout as unrealistic.

But you need more than 5 to make a league, and it makes no sense for Seton Hall and Providence to remain attached to the others.

So the next 3 obvious picks would be Dayton, Loyola and SLU gets them to 8.

Bradley and Drake could conceivably round the league out to get to 10.

In the east, you can see a similar split of the A10 and MAAC joining Seton Hall and Providence

Davidson
Duquesne
Iona
George Mason
George Washington
Providence
Rhode Island
Richmond
Seton Hall
St. Bonaventure
St. Joseph's
VCU

This is just a fantasy that will never happen. Excluding UConn, not a single big east school would accept an acc invitation. The entire catastrophic meltdown that the big east had a decade ago, was almost singularly based on the basketball/football schism the conference had. No one without fbs football is leaving a stable basketball focused league that is the premier bb focused league to join a football league that is already being sized up for poaching by the big ten and sec as we speak.

Also, s hall and Providence would still stick with big east leftovers and would not jettison, int his hypothetical never gonna happen scenario. This only makes sense if literally a dozen+ schools would proactively want to damage themselves for the express intent to help Bradley and drake.

this would be like me saying the mac would invite the birds but only fb only, sure it would be great for us, but the mac has no reason to do that.

[Birdfan2018]

This article in the Athletic really sold me on adding St. Thomas:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/617733 ... st-thomas/

I was kind of meh on them before but this add would make a lot of sense. This should be the MVC’s number one target.

Let dream big and go after Memphis. The MVC is better than the AAC. Replacing Missouri State with Memphis probably moves the MVC up to maybe 6 or 7. So if Memphis is not going to ACC,Big East, Big 10, Big 12, or SEC than come join the MVC. You’ll have Belmont, Murray State, Southern Illinois, and Evansville all within two hours.

On the off chance this isn't sarcasm (sorry if it is) Memphis is not giving up their TV money. also the AAC just became the first conference to institute a minimum revshare of $10M. Unless everyone here has a couple Mil lying around, I don't think we're getting that

This was not a serious suggestion that Memphis would consider the MVC. Zero chance that would happen. It was more about the schools that fans on here would consider joining the MVC. I’m good with where we are.
I would be in favor of a 20 game Conference schedule.
I would welcome an eight team MVC Tournament, with the bottom three not in the tournament. This would force teams to be more competitive. It would also eliminate anyone from getting a bye. Using the NET for the tie-breaker would challenge coaches/administrators to schedule better in the non-conference portion of their schedule. Very few fans make it to the Thursday game anyway, so just do a Friday quarterfinal, Saturday semifinal, and Sunday Championship game.

[municup14]

I would have loved to seen USI join the MVC,that's Southern Indiana. They have done very well in basketball against Valley teams in the past.

[MovingScreenOfDeath]

I would have loved to seen USI join the MVC,that's Southern Indiana. They have done very well in basketball against Valley teams in the past.

We don't need two schools in the same city when it can barely support one.

[hot nuts]

I haven't followed this thread closely and don't feel like going through all 80+ pages so I'll just ask, would Middle Tennessee State be a consideration?

[tribecalledquest]

I haven't followed this thread closely and don't feel like going through all 80+ pages so I'll just ask, would Middle Tennessee State be a consideration?

No. Any team with an FCS football team isn't joining the Valley.

[SalukiWorld]

I haven't followed this thread closely and don't feel like going through all 80+ pages so I'll just ask, would Middle Tennessee State be a consideration?

No. Any team with an FCS football team isn't joining the Valley.

FBS you mean. Yeah Middle Tennessee would make a ton of sense if not for that.

[tribecalledquest]

I haven't followed this thread closely and don't feel like going through all 80+ pages so I'll just ask, would Middle Tennessee State be a consideration?

No. Any team with an FCS football team isn't joining the Valley.

FBS you mean. Yeah Middle Tennessee would make a ton of sense if not for that.

Yes. Sorry.

[BUFanatic]

Head over to the Bradley board for a laugh at their ridiculous (or possibly plausible?) view about BU/Drake. Gotta say as a BU fan if we're were invited to a league like that it would be hard to turn down as much as I bleed for the MVC. Would prefer those teams have to join the MVC and we can keep the name lol.

As the OP of said ridiculous post - it merely postures a scenario where the ACC and Big East membership are coordinating or working together and discussing merger. I don't see a wholesale merger. The ACC will have little interest in or use for a number of Big East teams. I see them only interested in UConn, Villanova, St. John's and Georgetown. Maybe Marquette, but they would be a geographic outlier.

That would shut out

Seton Hall
Providence

Butler
Creighton
De Paul
Marquette
Xavier

I don't see those schools being shutout as unrealistic.

But you need more than 5 to make a league, and it makes no sense for Seton Hall and Providence to remain attached to the others.

So the next 3 obvious picks would be Dayton, Loyola and SLU gets them to 8.

Bradley and Drake could conceivably round the league out to get to 10.

In the east, you can see a similar split of the A10 and MAAC joining Seton Hall and Providence

Davidson
Duquesne
Iona
George Mason
George Washington
Providence
Rhode Island
Richmond
Seton Hall
St. Bonaventure
St. Joseph's
VCU

That's awesome. In related news, UNI is joining a league with:

Minnesota State Screaming Eagles
VCU
Chaminade
Alaska Fairbanks
Florida Gulf Coast
Wartburg
Alabama
New Orleans Saints
Johns Hopkins
New York Yankees
Washington Generals

Fantasy. Basketball only schools have next to no value to the ACC and the Big East schools are never getting into bed with football schools on a wholesale basis ever again.

I know there's some weird superiority complex over public schools but Bradley and Drake are in the right league no matter how much you hate to admit it.

Right + Harley's comments. If this were the 80s BU would have a better case. The original Big East imploded because they wanted football and basketball only schools.

As a BU fan this is a pipe dream but BU and Drake currently can't hold a candle to the top half of this proposed league. If anyone stands to make the jump to the BE it would be LUC (vomit) as the remnants were known as the C7.

In an era of California schools playing in the ATLANTIC COAST Conference I am fine staying in a geographically sound conference with a lot of history. Give it time and the superconferences will collapse the same way the old Big East did. FSU is already tired of sharing revenue with the likes of Wake Forest and Duke in football and likewise Duke/UNC are tired of sharing revenue with FSU in basketball. Wait until the discussion of OSU football and Purdue basketball having to share revenue with any sport at Cal happens. Ship will right itself because at the end of the day the NCAA member schools don't operate as franchises (like all our major sports leagues), they operate as independent entities with a common governing body.