Why was a disciplined referee allowed to ref last night?

[CBB_Fan]

IMHO, this had little impact on the outcome of the game, but it seems colossally stupid by the powers that let it happen. Paul Janssen was on the crew that was disciplined after the Illinois State game, and was allowed to ref against one of the teams involved. I don't understand why the league would let that happen, because it could (not saying did) compromise the refs neutrality.

Interesting thing about Paul Janssen: we suck with him reffing. 45.4% have come in the 18.8% of the games that Janssen has reffed. Taking away blowout wins/losses (10+ winning margin), and we are 1-5 with Janssen officiating. The one win? The game he was disciplined for at Illinois State.

For comparison, we have better conference winning percentages with Randy McCall (14% better), and Higgins (33% better), two other officials that have earned a fair share of hate from our franchise.

Again, in no way were the refs a bigger part of this loss than the product on the court, but the fact that Janssen was out there at out was a mistake.

[DoubleJayAlum]

It has happened earlier this year.

Literally two days after getting disciplined for putting Cleanthony Early at the FT line instead of Cotton against ILS, Gerry Pollard reffed a game in Omaha. To make matters worse, he even effed up in that game when he called a foul but couldn't remember whether it was a 1 and 1 or a two shot foul.

[jwa123]

Pollard's a treat. If you want to learn how to be a ref, he runs a camp for aspiring refs. What a joke.

[Ace Dad]

The discipline is supposed to advise the referee of his errant ways and then he is put back to work knowing that his calls are going to be evaluated after the game. Are you saying that once a referee is disciplined he should never ref again?

[CBB_Fan]

The discipline is supposed to advise the referee of his errant ways and then he is put back to work knowing that his calls are going to be evaluated after the game. Are you saying that once a referee is disciplined he should never ref again?

The real problem is that he was officiating a game against the team involved in the incident, not that the fact that he was officiating at all. Again, it is less than 10 days since his discipline for the Wichita State/Illinois State game, and he is reffing a Wichita State/Evansville game.

I just don't see why the conference would have that type of lack of oversight. It compromises the official's neutrality, and he could easily have carried emotional baggage into the game. I'm not blaming for the loss at all, but I think a different ref should have been selected.

[DoubleJayAlum]

The discipline is supposed to advise the referee of his errant ways and then he is put back to work knowing that his calls are going to be evaluated after the game. Are you saying that once a referee is disciplined he should never ref again?

The real problem is that he was officiating a game against the team involved in the incident, not that the fact that he was officiating at all. Again, it is less than 10 days since his discipline for the Wichita State/Illinois State game, and he is reffing a Wichita State/Evansville game.

I just don't see why the conference would have that type of lack of oversight. It compromises the official's neutrality, and he could easily have carried emotional baggage into the game. I'm not blaming for the loss at all, but I think a different ref should have been selected.

The league is probably running out of officials that Marshall hasn't complained about.

[sixth ace]

WOW you had an official put a better player on the line instead of the correct player,the official got reprimanded for it and you don't want him reffin games for you?

Really?

[CBB_Fan]

WOW you had an official put a better player on the line instead of the correct player,the official got reprimanded for it and you don't want him reffin games for you?

Really?

I don't see why it is so hard to understand. He first made an error in not making the right call to begin with, then later compounded that error by sending the wrong player to the line.

After the league grills him on it, do you really think he would have a good feeling about officiating another Wichita State game? Do you think he might possibly be slightly slow on the whistle towards Wichita State, or slightly less willing to make a judgement call?

Either way, it is not unfair to say that the discipline might make him officiate the game differently than normal. Though I will note that the Shockers are 0-5 in tight ball games with Janssen officiating (if you don't count the Illinois State game), so it isn't like his normal has worked out for us either.

[rlh04d]

I don't see why it matters.

I also don't see why he would bear any ill will towards Wichita State just because they happened to be playing when he screwed up.

Neither Illinois State or Wichita State has any responsibility for him making dumb mistakes. It's not Carmichael's fault that he apparently doesn't know kicking someone in the chest is a foul, and it's not Early's fault that he doesn't know who is supposed to shoot FTs following a flagrant.

You're essentially arguing that he is so utterly childish and petulant that he would lash out at a team for just being there when he screwed up.

His errors are personal and had nothing to do with the actions of either team involved, and don't imply any lack of objectivity on his part.

[CBB_Fan]

I'm not arguing that he consciously thought "I am going to make sure I make for my mistake." No ref should ever think that. What I do think is that reffing against the same team may have problems because of his implicit associations with that team. IE, he might have been unconsciously slow on the draw.