MVC Win Averages (1996-2013)

[Redbird Recon]

Below is a look at MVC win averages from the 1996-97 season through this past year.
These 17 seasons were played under the same double round-robin format with the same 10 teams.
A change from white to black and vice versa signifies a coaching change.

Creighton: 12.12
Southern Illinois: 10.35
Missouri State: 10.06
Wichita State: 9.82
Northern Iowa: 9.24
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Illinois State: 8.76
Bradley: 8.35
Indiana State: 7.53
Evansville: 7.41
Drake: 6.35

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[rlh04d]

Missouri State is ranked third with only one NCAA appearance and one conference title during that period. That's just unfortunate.

[glm38]

Missouri State is ranked third with only one NCAA appearance and one conference title during that period. That's just unfortunate.

Most MSU fans would agree with you. Over that timespan we have frequently been "good/decent" but only veryrarely exceptional. I look on the Charlie Spoonhour years as our best years. Those are more than 20 years ago though.

Hopefully we can buck that trend though.

[CaseyGarrisonforPrez]

One thing that I hadn't given much thought to, but that this all illustrates is the geographic disparity between the top and bottom division clubs. The Illinois and Indiana schools have on the whole underperformed while the Western schools have been the standard bearers. I find this interesting when the conference tends to kowtow to the wishes and desires of the schools that have on average brought less to the table. I could go on and on about this point but it is the thing that strikes me the most on a macro level.

On a micro level I find WSU's average to be interesting. It shows that they are not the hegemon that their fans think they are. They are the big guy right now, but it still could be smoke and mirrors with a neat Final Four thrown in. If Gregg goes to Auburn in the next year or--which I personally believe that there is a decent possibility of then they are let's say a Doc Sadler or Scott Spinelli hire away from potentially being Drake post Mark Phelps. With better resources and stuff but still.

Missouri State shows well over the past 16 or 17 years but frankly it has still been an underachievement and I wouldn't hide from that fact. WSU has a F4, UNI has the S16 with an epic win, SIUC has the same minus the epic win part but with lots of hardware in the way of titles, CU has lots of titles, March Madness flameouts and embellished stories about hooking up with chunky UMSL girls that they met at Sundecker's, and Missouri State is left with one S16 fourteen years ago that has become almost a distant memory. We are like the Lee Westwood of this conference. We are as good as they come tee to green but when are we going to start sinking putts in March? When's gonna be our time?

But yeah this is interesting. I love data and facts and this is great as a frame of reference. Good work.

[mvcfan]

On a micro level I find WSU's average to be interesting. It shows that they are not the hegemon that their fans think they are. They are the big guy right now, but it still could be smoke and mirrors with a neat Final Four thrown in. If Gregg goes to Auburn in the next year or--which I personally believe that there is a decent possibility of then they are let's say a Doc Sadler or Scott Spinelli hire away from potentially being Drake post Mark Phelps. With better resources and stuff but still.

I'll only comment about the dorky portion of your post. There is no way that we hire Doc Sadler or Scott Spinelli for 1 million dollars. What a joke.

[DUBulldog]

On a micro level I find WSU's average to be interesting. It shows that they are not the hegemon that their fans think they are. They are the big guy right now, but it still could be smoke and mirrors with a neat Final Four thrown in. If Gregg goes to Auburn in the next year or--which I personally believe that there is a decent possibility of then they are let's say a Doc Sadler or Scott Spinelli hire away from potentially being Drake post Mark Phelps. With better resources and stuff but still.

At this point, Drake has not played a game post-Mark Phelps, so what are you suggesting?

[Haha]

If Gregg goes to Auburn in the next year or--which I personally believe that there is a decent possibility of then they are let's say a Doc Sadler or Scott Spinelli hire away from potentially being Drake post Mark Phelps. With better resources and stuff but still.

Man you are dumb

[shocktheheart]

One thing that I hadn't given much thought to, but that this all illustrates is the geographic disparity between the top and bottom division clubs. The Illinois and Indiana schools have on the whole underperformed while the Western schools have been the standard bearers. I find this interesting when the conference tends to kowtow to the wishes and desires of the schools that have on average brought less to the table. I could go on and on about this point but it is the thing that strikes me the most on a macro level.

On a micro level I find WSU's average to be interesting. It shows that they are not the hegemon that their fans think they are. They are the big guy right now, but it still could be smoke and mirrors with a neat Final Four thrown in. If Gregg goes to Auburn in the next year or--which I personally believe that there is a decent possibility of then they are let's say a Doc Sadler or Scott Spinelli hire away from potentially being Drake post Mark Phelps. With better resources and stuff but still.

Missouri State shows well over the past 16 or 17 years but frankly it has still been an underachievement and I wouldn't hide from that fact. WSU has a F4, UNI has the S16 with an epic win, SIUC has the same minus the epic win part but with lots of hardware in the way of titles, CU has lots of titles, March Madness flameouts and embellished stories about hooking up with chunky UMSL girls that they met at Sundecker's, and Missouri State is left with one S16 fourteen years ago that has become almost a distant memory. We are like the Lee Westwood of this conference. We are as good as they come tee to green but when are we going to start sinking putts in March? When's gonna be our time?

But yeah this is interesting. I love data and facts and this is great as a frame of reference. Good work.

Enlighten us on why you think Marshall will go to Auburn. I realize he is from the area, but it is a horrible basketball school that pays right around what he is making right now. He has the best team that he has ever had on paper at WSU right now.

[matter_of_fact]

I think this is the same information just presented in a different manner

REGULAR SEASON COMPOSITE RECORD - 1996-97 through 2012-13

W L Pct.
Creighton 206 100 .673
Southern Illinois 176 130 .575
Missouri State 171 135 .559
Wichita State 167 139 .546
Northern Iowa 157 149 .513
Illinois State 149 157 .487
Bradley 142 164 .464
Indiana State 128 178 .418
Evansville 126 180 .412
Drake 108 198 .353

[Wufan]

Question:

Why are we using the dates of 1996 to present? There is nothing wrong with those dates, but generally a 10 or 20 year time frame is used, not 17 year.