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Matt Norlander's Top 353

Postby Adunk33 » October 24th, 2018, 11:46 am

https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... very-team/

WE ALL MADE THE LIST! Not much separation from 1&2. Then 5-6 and 8-10

54 Illinois State
For those scrolling through this and wondering where Final Four darling Loyola-Chicago's at, don't worry, we're not too far off now. But guess what? Illinois State's going to be the best team in the Missouri Valley this season. Milik Yarbrough might be the toughest matchup in the conference and Phil Fayne is arguably a top-five MVC player. Dan Muller, now in year seven in Normal, Illinois has knocked on the NCAA tourney door thrice before. In 2019, he enters the room.


63 Loyola
And finally we've come to the beloved Ramblers. I tried not to let last season's run influence my ranking too much; if anything, perhaps I've overthought this. But Porter Moser (who couldn't schedule up the way he hoped) did lose key starters from last season's dream team. Returning is reigning MVC POY Clayton Custer (13.2 ppg, 4.1 apg). Cameron Krutwig, a sophomore with a game out of 1962, is back. So is Marques Townes (11.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg), who I think becomes this team's best player this season.


97 SIU
Hybrid forward Armon Fletcher is going to keep SIU in company with Illinois State and Loyola-Chicago in the Missouri Valley. The Salukis return 83 percent of their minutes from a 20-win team that held its own often on the road. A lot of potential in Carbondale.


118 Bradley
I suspect the Braves will have a good season but will have poor non-conference numbers that will drag it down lower in the ratings systems vs. how good the team actually should be. Won 20 games a season ago. I think it matches or betters that in 2018-19. Darrell Brown is the best smallest player in the MVC.


132 INST
Jordan Barnes is one of the five best players in the Valley. The Sycamores open their conference season with road games against Illinois State and Loyola-Chicago. That's a rough hand to be dealt, but this group should land above .500 in conference play.


153 UNI
We're in for a good year of Missouri Valley basketball. I know that because I have UNI much lower than the metrics at this point, and other Valley teams clearly shape up as top-130 quality.


160 Valpo
Bakari Evelyn's a stat-getter (top-five player in the Valley, maybe?) and will pump more life into a Valpo team that was 15-17 last season but should flip that record in 2018-19.


166 Mo State
Give him three years and Ford will have Missouri State in the MVC title game. Give him five years, tops, and he'll have a job in a power conference.


186 Drake
The Bulldogs are on their third coach in three years, as Niko Medved went back to Colorado State. Fortunately Nick McGlynn stayed for his final season, which is massive for this team.


207 Evansville
Yes, former Kentucky Wildcat/NBA veteran Walter McCarty. He joins a number of former NBAers who are now running college programs. Evansville's defense will go as far as its bench depth allows.
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Re: Matt Norlander's Top 353

Postby Adunk33 » October 24th, 2018, 12:13 pm

For those who care (few) Wichita State is at 99.
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Re: Matt Norlander's Top 353

Postby tribecalledquest » October 25th, 2018, 8:04 am

Adunk33 wrote:For those who care (few) Wichita State is at 99.


That move to the American is looking better and better by the day for the Shox.
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Re: Matt Norlander's Top 353

Postby Stickboy46 » October 25th, 2018, 1:58 pm

tribecalledquest wrote:
Adunk33 wrote:For those who care (few) Wichita State is at 99.


That move to the American is looking better and better by the day for the Shox.

Not sure if sarcastic or not but ...

If we are using this list as gospel

Potential Top XX Games for WSU IN:

Top 50
MVC 0
AAC 3

Top 100
MVC 3
AAC 7

Yup, looking better and better every day considering you can likely double those numbers for conference Home and Away games
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Re: Matt Norlander's Top 353

Postby tribecalledquest » October 25th, 2018, 2:27 pm

Stickboy46 wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:
Adunk33 wrote:For those who care (few) Wichita State is at 99.


That move to the American is looking better and better by the day for the Shox.

Not sure if sarcastic or not but ...

If we are using this list as gospel

Potential Top XX Games for WSU IN:

Top 50
MVC 0
AAC 3

Top 100
MVC 3
AAC 7

Yup, looking better and better every day considering you can likely double those numbers for conference Home and Away games


Not using the list as gospel. But it's one list. I would rather be higher than 99 than lower than 99 regardless of who is on the schedule but that's just me. No one leaves Koch Arena happy the Shox lost to a good team.

Shocker fans must have a Google alert set for anytime someone talks about the MBB team on this site :)
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Re: Matt Norlander's Top 353

Postby Stickboy46 » October 25th, 2018, 2:58 pm

tribecalledquest wrote:
Stickboy46 wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:That move to the American is looking better and better by the day for the Shox.

Not sure if sarcastic or not but ...

If we are using this list as gospel

Potential Top XX Games for WSU IN:

Top 50
MVC 0
AAC 3

Top 100
MVC 3
AAC 7

Yup, looking better and better every day considering you can likely double those numbers for conference Home and Away games


Not using the list as gospel. But it's one list. I would rather be higher than 99 than lower than 99 regardless of who is on the schedule but that's just me. No one leaves Koch Arena happy the Shox lost to a good team.

Shocker fans must have a Google alert set for anytime someone talks about the MBB team on this site :)


No, just happened to be browsing. And yes winning is good. Winning against teams that won't help you get into the tourney isn't fun either. So yet again, yes the move to the AAC is looking great.
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Re: Matt Norlander's Top 353

Postby tribecalledquest » October 25th, 2018, 3:04 pm

It will maybe pay a dividend if the Shox aren't as talented as they have been the last 5-8 years. Playing in the MVC didn't hurt Wichita in any way, shape or form. Will moving to the AAC help? Maybe? Maybe not. To claim one way or another at this point is foolish. Didn't help them at all in year one.

Preseason polls are what they are...but 8th place? No one would be happy with that right?
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Re: Matt Norlander's Top 353

Postby Stickboy46 » October 25th, 2018, 3:21 pm

tribecalledquest wrote:It will maybe pay a dividend if the Shox aren't as talented as they have been the last 5-8 years. Playing in the MVC didn't hurt Wichita in any way, shape or form. Will moving to the AAC help? Maybe? Maybe not. To claim one way or another at this point is foolish. Didn't help them at all in year one.

Preseason polls are what they are...but 8th place? No one would be happy with that right?


It did hurt WSU when it came to seeding. Without a doubt. We made the best of it, but we absolutely got punished in seeding due to the MVC.
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Re: Matt Norlander's Top 353

Postby uniftw » October 25th, 2018, 3:34 pm

Stickboy46 wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:It will maybe pay a dividend if the Shox aren't as talented as they have been the last 5-8 years. Playing in the MVC didn't hurt Wichita in any way, shape or form. Will moving to the AAC help? Maybe? Maybe not. To claim one way or another at this point is foolish. Didn't help them at all in year one.

Preseason polls are what they are...but 8th place? No one would be happy with that right?


It did hurt WSU when it came to seeding. Without a doubt. We made the best of it, but we absolutely got punished in seeding due to the MVC.

Yeah


That 1 seed was a real bitch.
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Re: Matt Norlander's Top 353

Postby tribecalledquest » October 25th, 2018, 4:05 pm

uniftw wrote:
Stickboy46 wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:It will maybe pay a dividend if the Shox aren't as talented as they have been the last 5-8 years. Playing in the MVC didn't hurt Wichita in any way, shape or form. Will moving to the AAC help? Maybe? Maybe not. To claim one way or another at this point is foolish. Didn't help them at all in year one.

Preseason polls are what they are...but 8th place? No one would be happy with that right?


It did hurt WSU when it came to seeding. Without a doubt. We made the best of it, but we absolutely got punished in seeding due to the MVC.

Yeah


That 1 seed was a real bitch.


No kidding. Had it not been for the MVC they would have been seeded -16 and gotten a bye to the Final Four.
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