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NCAA to approve one free transfer with immediate eligibility

Postby Red » October 13th, 2020, 12:58 pm

If the mid-majors didn't have the deck stacked against them already, let's officially put the nail in the coffin.

NCAA is about to approve a one time free transfer for basketball players and they will be immediately eligible. The school the athlete is leaving cannot do anything about it.

My goodness, what a blow to a school that finds a diamond in the rough and spends years developing him into a big time player. Bu-bye, I'm going to the ACC, Big East, B1G, etc.
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Re: NCAA to approve one free transfer with immediate eligibi

Postby tribecalledquest » October 15th, 2020, 10:55 am

Red wrote:If the mid-majors didn't have the deck stacked against them already, let's officially put the nail in the coffin.

NCAA is about to approve a one time free transfer for basketball players and they will be immediately eligible. The school the athlete is leaving cannot do anything about it.

My goodness, what a blow to a school that finds a diamond in the rough and spends years developing him into a big time player. Bu-bye, I'm going to the ACC, Big East, B1G, etc.


The anecdote you share at the end is way more fairy tale than reality. The MVC has been helped as much as harmed over the years with transfers. This will continue. Loyola built their Final Four run on the backs of D1 transfer guards for crying out loud.

This is fear mongering. This is the right move for the players and the MVC's place in the college basketball world won't be affected one iota.
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Re: NCAA to approve one free transfer with immediate eligibi

Postby Adunk33 » October 15th, 2020, 11:14 am

I do agree that it's the right thing to do, however given the current state of Illinois State's program I fear this will hurt them pretty bad in the next few years. The concern over losing DJ Horne and Antionio Reeves is high if things don't turn around quick, and not having to sit out a year now may make that decision for them easier.
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Re: NCAA to approve one free transfer with immediate eligibi

Postby Blers » October 15th, 2020, 12:00 pm

tribecalledquest wrote:The anecdote you share at the end is way more fairy tale than reality. The MVC has been helped as much as harmed over the years with transfers. This will continue. Loyola built their Final Four run on the backs of D1 transfer guards for crying out loud.

This is fear mongering. This is the right move for the players and the MVC's place in the college basketball world won't be affected one iota.


I agree, this rule affects everyone not just the MVC. The Final Four team featured one transfer "down" (Custer) and one transfer "up" (Townes). The way I look at it is how much better Loyola's 18-19 team would have looked had Hall been able to step in right away? Or how good could last years team have been had Norris been eligible early in the season when Clemons was out (not to mention the shooting to fill the void left by Kaifes injury). I don't know every teams redshirt situation, but i'm sure there are plenty more examples... I know Bradley could have benefited from a deeper bench as well with their talented sit outs...

Loyola, Bradley, UNI, and even InSt haven't lost any stars under their current staffs to the transfer in the last 5 or so years. It's just more pressure for coaches at all levels to build good relationships with their players
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Re: NCAA to approve one free transfer with immediate eligibi

Postby BEARZ77 » October 15th, 2020, 12:01 pm

I think where it hurts midmajors and the quality of D-1 basketball is in that it makes it harder to build a 3-4 year team . That's where MM and non blue bloods have been able to advance their cause is with teams primarily comprised of 3-5 yr players. that's why the Kentucky's of the world don't win all the Tourneys because they have mostly 1st/2nd yr uber talent playing solid veteran teams. When talent is able to move around at a whim, you lose those quality teams built over 3-4 years and it just becomes a quasi NBA model. Yeah quality mids will get talent from below and above looking for pt, but that model of a team built over multiple years will fade. Not good for basketball
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Re: NCAA to approve one free transfer with immediate eligibi

Postby sivert » October 15th, 2020, 12:24 pm

tribecalledquest wrote:The anecdote you share at the end is way more fairy tale than reality. The MVC has been helped as much as harmed over the years with transfers. This will continue. Loyola built their Final Four run on the backs of D1 transfer guards for crying out loud.

This is fear mongering. This is the right move for the players and the MVC's place in the college basketball world won't be affected one iota.

Surprising post. I don't see it as a fairy tale. Liam Robbins, JFL, and Deangelo Williams come to mind as guys whose departure will hurt their teams. Perhaps not every year (or even every few years) will MVC teams have transfers-out like those, but they are not fairy tales. All three were sophomores so if they stayed, would have had two more years in the Valley. JFL was the highest rated coming in, a 3-star. Were they "diamonds in the rough"? Liams, yes, the others are better than expected, at least.

Maybe I'm not considering the value of the transfers-in. UNI hasn't had a ton of transfers in or out. Two highly significant transfers-in were Wes Washpun and Paul Jesperson. And Goanar Mar for next year.

It feels like the outs are more significant than the ins overall in the Valley. But that has not been the case for UNI.
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Re: NCAA to approve one free transfer with immediate eligibi

Postby tribecalledquest » October 15th, 2020, 1:48 pm

Adunk33 wrote:I do agree that it's the right thing to do, however given the current state of Illinois State's program I fear this will hurt them pretty bad in the next few years. The concern over losing DJ Horne and Antionio Reeves is high if things don't turn around quick, and not having to sit out a year now may make that decision for them easier.


It's not on players to stick around a program that hasn't gotten better.
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Re: NCAA to approve one free transfer with immediate eligibi

Postby tribecalledquest » October 15th, 2020, 1:49 pm

Blers wrote:Loyola, Bradley, UNI, and even InSt haven't lost any stars under their current staffs to the transfer in the last 5 or so years. It's just more pressure for coaches at all levels to build good relationships with their players


This. Develop a winning program where players want to play and you don't have to worry about this. In fact, you will "win" the transfer game far more than you lose it.
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Re: NCAA to approve one free transfer with immediate eligibi

Postby BCPanther » October 15th, 2020, 2:32 pm

If you create an environment where you win games and kids want to buy in, which starts from the very first contact in recruiting, you don't lose kids.

Programs that preach competition seem to do so much better.
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Re: NCAA to approve one free transfer with immediate eligibi

Postby municup14 » October 16th, 2020, 4:39 am

If I remember correctly this was for a player who has not transferred previously.
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