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Drake 28-2?

Postby PretzelDawg » February 5th, 2025, 11:23 am

Can a Drake team that goes 28-2 in the regular season with a loss in the Valley tournament qualify as an at-large? I see their NET is currently a 59. Will it continue to climb with seven more wins to finish the regular season? What if they finish 30-3 with a loss in the Valley championship?
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Re: Drake 28-2?

Postby MissouriValleyUnite » February 5th, 2025, 11:35 am

A Drake team that wins out until Arch Madness is unquestionably in the NCAA Tournament.

They would be 1-0 Q1/4-2 Q2. And that’s before considering Kansas St (79) or Bradley (80) could crack the top-75 for Q1 territory.

For comparison, Indiana St last year was 1-4 Q1/4-1 Q2 *and* needed the toughest bubble ever *and* a record number of bid thieves to keep them out.

Remember, Indiana St picked up *0* Q1/Q2 wins OOC last year because Schertz scheduled to build up his win total to cash in for a high-paying job, not for an at-large. As a result, 100% of Indiana St’s Q1/Q2 were off MVC wins.
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Re: Drake 28-2?

Postby BCPanther » February 5th, 2025, 11:52 am

I think Drake can lose to UNI AND Bradley and still get in with a loss on Sunday in StL.

Resume is way stronger than Indiana State's last year and the bubble isn't going to be in the same stratosphere.
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Re: Drake 28-2?

Postby tribecalledquest » February 5th, 2025, 1:04 pm

BCPanther wrote:I think Drake can lose to UNI AND Bradley and still get in with a loss on Sunday in StL.

Resume is way stronger than Indiana State's last year and the bubble isn't going to be in the same stratosphere.


Agreed.
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Re: Drake 28-2?

Postby agernes » February 5th, 2025, 2:38 pm

Drake should be helped that Wins Above Bubble is a committee metric now. That would undoubtedly be one of their biggest strengths if they actually get to 28-2. they'd be in the top 25 in WAB in that hypothetical
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Re: Drake 28-2?

Postby MissouriValleyUnite » February 5th, 2025, 4:10 pm

agernes wrote:Drake should be helped that Wins Above Bubble is a committee metric now. That would undoubtedly be one of their biggest strengths if they actually get to 28-2. they'd be in the top 25 in WAB in that hypothetical


What helps Drake is they’re above the at-large cutline in all the “resume” metrics (37 SOR, 40 WAB, 43 KPI). It’s only the “efficiency” metrics (KenPom, Torvik, BPI) where they’re not. The “resume” metrics carry more weight with the selection committee than the “efficiency” metrics.
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Re: Drake 28-2?

Postby Bulldog2323 » February 6th, 2025, 10:27 pm

During the game on Tuesday night, Lunardi had serious doubts.

The good: wins against Vanderbilt & Kansas State

The bad: Loss to Murray State (sorry Racer fans)
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Re: Drake 28-2?

Postby municup14 » February 7th, 2025, 5:17 am

To me a vandy and k. st. win is a whole better than a racer loss.Plus I believe drake could have 1 or 2 more conference losses.
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Re: Drake 28-2?

Postby Bulldog4life24 » February 7th, 2025, 8:48 am

Bulldog2323 wrote:During the game on Tuesday night, Lunardi had serious doubts.

The good: wins against Vanderbilt & Kansas State

The bad: Loss to Murray State (sorry Racer fans)


Fwiw, Lunardi isn’t even in the top 100 all time of bracketologists. He’s paid to promote the brands ESPn has financial interest in propping up. You have to take anything he says with a heavy grain of salt.

Many folks who do this and are much higher ranked for their historical picks all have a much rosier view on Drake’s chances (Rocco Miller, JBR, T3, Bauertology, 801, etc).

I know this has been shared other places, but bracketmatrix.com is much more Informative than listening to the talking heads like Lunardi.
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Re: Drake 28-2?

Postby BCPanther » February 7th, 2025, 9:50 am

Bulldog4life24 wrote:
Bulldog2323 wrote:During the game on Tuesday night, Lunardi had serious doubts.

The good: wins against Vanderbilt & Kansas State

The bad: Loss to Murray State (sorry Racer fans)


Fwiw, Lunardi isn’t even in the top 100 all time of bracketologists. He’s paid to promote the brands ESPn has financial interest in propping up. You have to take anything he says with a heavy grain of salt.

Many folks who do this and are much higher ranked for their historical picks all have a much rosier view on Drake’s chances (Rocco Miller, JBR, T3, Bauertology, 801, etc).

I know this has been shared other places, but bracketmatrix.com is much more Informative than listening to the talking heads like Lunardi.


Fun fact on Lunardi. For $10k, he'll 'consult' on your scheduling and give you extra exposure in his bracketing.

He's an absolute fraud that is bad at his job but, good on him, for figuring out how to get rich and famous by being a con man.
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