1st Team All Valley/2nd Team All Valley

[mvcfan]

Just give our team another team award for being in the Top 25 conversation again. This conference is just so illogical and ludicrous. Our coach and players are never good enough to be the best on the league and win awards even when we dominate. It is laughable.

[Cdizzle]

If Reed Timmer is 1st Team then so is Zach Brown.

[salukisideline]

Just give our team another team award for being in the Top 25 conversation again. This conference is just so illogical and ludicrous. Our coach and players are never good enough to be the best on the league and win awards even when we dominate. It is laughable.

2015-2016: 1st Team - Baker, VanVleet
2014-2015: 1st Team - Baker, VanVleet
2013-2014: 1st Team - Baker, Early, VanVleet

What was your argument again? Seriously stop crying about the league and change your name to MWCfan or (dreamconferencefan). The only screw job I'll give you is Hinson over Gregg last year for COY. But still request you get off the pedestal you're perched on.

[tribecalledquest]

Also, can't believe no one is giving Reed Timmer love on here. Since league play started, he has been great and took a team who was dead going into the league to a team that has been a tough game for everyone.

I think you're giving Timmer way too much credit. He has been absolutely terrible in Drake's current losing streak. Quite honestly, I hope they bench him right now.....he's been that bad.

IMO, Reed Timmer is a totally overrated player. He is so left hand dominant its ridiculous. You could cut off his right hand and he wouldn't be affected. His lone offensive move is to drive in the lane, fall down, and get to the line. He also can't guard anyone.

I like Ore a lot and McMurray a lot. Timmer--not so much.

[tribecalledquest]

It doesn't seem right that on both of the aforementioned lists there is only one Shocker. Seems like they should have at least two as dominant as they have been.

But who is the second? Shamet? Frankamp? Morris? Willis?

One of the reasons WSU has been dominant is there are so many people that have stepped up. They don't always step up, but someone always seems too. At the beginning of the year it was Willis. Then Towards the front half of Conference, it was Morris, Then Shamet saved us a few times and the last 3 games it's been Frankamp ...

McDuffie has really been the only really consistent one. If I had to name a second personally it would be Shamet.

I really like Shamet's conference only stats and think he should make 2nd team.
- 16th in scoring, 12.3/game
- Shooting 54% from the field (5th), 46% from 3pt
- 3.7 assists/game (6th)
- #1 assist/turnover

I don't look at anything other than the 18 game conference stats.

[Cdizzle]

I don't look at anything other than the 18 game conference stats.

I think this is an interesting topic. How do other people weigh season performance and conference performance?

[tribecalledquest]

First Team:
Shamet
Paris Lee
O'Brien
Doyle
Alize

Second Team:
McDuffie
Hawkins
Morgan
Ingram
D. Miller (but could be any number of guys)

POY: Doyle

[mule]

I don't look at anything other than the 18 game conference stats.

I think this is an interesting topic. How do other people weigh season performance and conference performance?

I agree. 18 conference games only.

[Cdizzle]

If you go by conference games only, I'm not sure Lee stacks up as well as many of you have him.

Not saying I don't think he should be first team, just curious how much weight people generally give to things like full season stats, conference stats, team record, etc.

[tribecalledquest]

If you go by conference games only, I'm not sure Lee stacks up as well as many of you have him.

Not saying I don't think he should be first team, just curious how much weight people generally give to things like full season stats, conference stats, team record, etc.

He does lead the league in both assists and steals.