Bubble watch

[Rollbird5]

Thank yourselves. Next time either a. schedule better in the noncon, b. don't lose to crap teams in the noncon or c. both. That way, you don't have to worry about the strength of the Valley. Remember if the Valley was any better, you would have lost a few more games.

Some Redbird fans are saying, well, when we put this schedule together 2-3 years ago we didn't know if the Valley would be so bad. Exactly!

Good call TAS!

Seven, yes SEVEN teams on our schedule were in the NCAA Tournament last year. It just so happened that many of the underachieved.

You're too dumb to realize that though.

Yes! I'm too dumb to realize this list of noncon opponents is soooo great--

11-11 at Murray St. 14-17 (10-9) 231 70-73 L RPI 170
11-16 IPFW 16-12 (8-9) 178 75-57 W RPI 74
11-21 at TCU 18-15 (8-13) 68 71-80 L RPI 168
11-30 IUPUI 12-18 (8-10) 218 77-63 W RPI 189
12-03 New Mexico 17-14 (10-9) 86 79-74 W RPI 145
12-07 at Tulsa 15-17 (9-11) 130 68-70 L RPI 60
12-10 Tenn-Martin 19-12 (11-7) 164 74-57 W RPI 215
12-18 St. Joseph's 11-20 (4-15) 201 81-72 W RPI 20
12-23 vs San Francisco 19-12 (10-9) 94 58-66 L RPI 229
12-23 at Hawaii 13-16 (8-9) 300 71-45 W RPI 86
12-25 vs Tulsa 15-17 (9-11) 130 68-56 W RPI 60


Face it. You f-ed yourselves. Blame yourselves.

I put last years RPI next to each team. Based off the previous year the schedule looked like it would be solid. 5 chances at rpi top 100 teams (Instead of San Fran or tulsa we could've played SDSU (RPI 42) or Utah (RPI 9) in Hawaii). Not many games against sub 200 rpi teams. Obviously you would like a chance or two at a top team like we did last year with Kentucky and Maryland but nothing you can do when the other teams won't even talk about playing against you. Just like Wichita's schedule it looks good on paper but you can't control the teams underperforming to expectations.

[Cdizzle]

ISU's average RPI over the prior 7 seasons (as far back as I found on warrenNolan)?

120.

Maybe don't blame the 'others' when you are more a part of that group than not.

Referencing this year only...prior years mean nothing

They do when you want to talk crap on the other teams in the league.

[BirdsEyeView]

They do when you want to talk crap on the other teams in the league.

The topic at hand was this year's ISUr resume. No team provided a quality win for us except WSU. If this were a convo about last year's ISUr resume or the 5 years prior then sure no room to talk...

However, this topic is about this year and why we did not get an at large...
The other 8 teams absolutely impacted this league only getting 1 in. We were 17-1 in Conference. When was the last Valley team to have that record and NOT get into the big dance? Our league was very bad 3-10 this year.

You challenge a pretty well understood point about this year's version of the MVC with random stats about the past 7 years. Head scratching.

[Cdizzle]

They do when you want to talk crap on the other teams in the league.

The topic at hand was this year's ISUr resume. No team provided a quality win for us except WSU. If this were a convo about last year's ISUr resume or the 5 years prior then sure no room to talk...

However, this topic is about this year and why we did not get an at large...
The other 8 teams absolutely impacted this league only getting 1 in. We were 17-1 in Conference. When was the last Valley team to have that record and NOT get into the big dance? Our league was very bad 3-10 this year.

You challenge a pretty well understood point about this year's version of the MVC with random stats about the past 7 years. Head scratching.

I challenge nothing about this year's version of the MVC. I challenge an ISU fan complaining about this year's version of the league because over the past 7 years they have been as much a part of the problem.

[Play Angry]

Next year's numbers for the middle and lower tiers of the league will be even worse. There is no fix in sight.

I won't be surprised if WSU is the only top 100 team next year.

[Cdizzle]

The Valley is officially a 1-bid league.

Help me AAC, you're my only hope.

[Stickboy46]

Someone quoted Muller as stating that he called 25 of the tournament teams to try to schedule a game, all said no.

[Rollbird5]

Someone quoted Muller as stating that he called 25 of the tournament teams to try to schedule a game, all said no.

Yup. Really not much you can do when top teams refuse to play you. He even said he was trying to schedule home and home's with Dayton and VCU and they wouldn't do it.

[BirdsEyeView]

I challenge nothing about this year's version of the MVC. I challenge an ISU fan complaining about this year's version of the league because over the past 7 years they have been as much a part of the problem.

Those are mutually exclusive issues. This thread is entitled bubble watch...not bubble watch 2016, or 2015 or 2014....etc.

Why are we arguing this Cdizzle? I did not make you a 10 seed...tweet to @MSUAD if you want to be passively aggressive

[Red]

I am very disappointed but not surprised. The Valley will likely be a one bid league pretty much every year going forward. It's about time we all realize that.