Next Mid-Major Power?

[musiccitybulldog]

No offense to any of the mentioned teams. The story is much like reading who the worlds best ocarina player is.

[mule]

No offense to any of the mentioned teams. The story is much like reading who the worlds best ocarina player is.

Gleaned from google "Fabio Galliani is the best in Europe and Milt is the best in Asia. ... Fulvio Carpanelli, Marco Venturuzzo and also great ocarina players."

[Redhawk]

Brag about "WE HAVE FRESHMAN AND TRANSFERS AND BLAH BLAH BLAH". When was the last time a team, leaning on freshman/transfers dominated the MVC? Want a clue for how well it goes - outside of Baker and Van Vleet - who were guided by upper classmen? UNI, just last season.

True freshman starting at point guard
Redshirt freshman starting at shooting guard
True freshman seeing significant minutes at the wing and 2 spot
Redshirt freshman seeing a bulk of the minutes at the 4/5 the second half of the season after he came back from knee surgery.
CC transfer seeing majority of reserve minutes at PG

It doesn't end well.

ISUr projected starters next year:

PG: Evans JR
SG: Copeland JR - JC Transfer
WG: Yarbrough RSJR - Sat out last year
PF: Fayne JR
C: Ndiaye JR

ISUr will be starting 5 Juniors unless Clarance cracks the lineup right from the start.
They also will start 4 players who were on the team last year. Not sure why you think
it will be all freshman/transfers!

[UNIFanSince1983]

Long story short here...

The league needs both UNI and ISUr to be good every year. This is an uncertain year for both.

UNI lost their statistical leader in every category, Jeremy Morgan from a 14-16 team. Even adding Lohaus back who is going to score points and be the next Jeremy Morgan for you.

ISUr is replacing it's core roster, only returning contributors Fayne, Evans and N'Diaye. Lots of uncertainty there with new players. Hype is one thing, production is another. TBD.

Next mid-major power appears to be St. Mary's or someone from the A10 (Dayton, Rhode Island, etc)

Here is a reasonable post. It is better for everyone if UNI, ISUr, SIU, Bradley, etc. are good every year. It would be nice if our conference could create a couple of the next mid major powers. Then maybe teams wouldn't want to keep leaving.

I do think the talent on the UNI roster was better than it showed last year, but I am definitely biased. I know ISUr loses a lot, but damned if Muller doesn't always have some pretty good recruits come in after losing good players. I think both teams will be good. Not sure how good, but certainly top half of the league good. Hell if Muller can start keeping players ISUr could very well make some big runs. I know it might be a sore spot, but they could have been damn good with Reggie Lynch this past year.

So with teams like MSU and Loyola making progress if UNI and ISUr can keep it going this league is looking up. And even though WSU left and they are irreplaceable adding Valpo was a great move and they have lots of potential.

[uniftw]

ISUr projected starters next year:

PG: Evans JR
SG: Copeland JR - JC Transfer
WG: Yarbrough RSJR - Sat out last year
PF: Fayne JR
C: Ndiaye JR

ISUr will be starting 5 Juniors unless Clarance cracks the lineup right from the start.
They also will start 4 players who were on the team last year. Not sure why you think
it will be all freshman/transfers!

Evans - 19mpg, 5.8 ppg, 2APG 50% FT%, 38% FG%, 38% 3%
Copeland - no D1 experience, no different than a red-shirt player
Yarbrough - redshirt
Fayne - 24 mpg, 9 PPG, 6 RPG, 55% FT%
Ndiaye - 15 MPG, 1.8 PPG, 3 RPG, 42% FG%, 66% FT%

Sounds like a killer starting 5. Based on that I can see why they are going to run through the league again. There is a whole 17 points coming back, one guy who has never played D1 ball and a transfer that averaged 7.7 points per game at his old school.

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

It'll be fun beating you next season. Muller is a genius.

[Redhawk]

ISUr will be starting 5 Juniors unless Clarance cracks the lineup right from the start.
They also will start 4 players who were on the team last year. Not sure why you think
it will be all freshman/transfers!

Evans - 19mpg, 5.8 ppg, 2APG 50% FT%, 38% FG%, 38% 3%
Copeland - Cal Juco Player of the Year
Yarbrough - redshirt SLU Transfer
Fayne - 24 mpg, 9 PPG, 6 RPG, 55% FT%
Ndiaye - 15 MPG, 1.8 PPG, 3 RPG, 42% FG%, 66% FT%

Sounds like a killer starting 5. Based on that I can see why they are going to run through the league again. There is a whole 17 points coming back, one guy who has never played D1 ball and a transfer that averaged 7.7 points per game at his old school.

Yarbrough actually avg. 9.0 points per game for his total career at SLU.
Funny thing is that is higher than any returning Panther other than Bennett Koch!

[BirdsEyeView]

uniftw - you hardly have a leg to stand on in this argument as your trend line is not exactly pointing up currently either.

These Redbird fans might be overly optimistic for an upcoming season full of uncertainty, but it appears you are too.

UNI fans are riding the hope that Carlson returns to form and Koch stays out of foul trouble. But, more importantly that you have competency in the backcourt to facilitate an offense who lost their leader last season.

The argument in mid-major power RIGHT NOW for 2017-2018 in this conference begins and ends with Missouri State (until you are reminded of their coach).

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

I don't think they'll become a power but SIU is really being overlooked next season.

[ISUSOX13]

uniftw - you hardly have a leg to stand on in this argument as your trend line is not exactly pointing up currently either.

These Redbird fans might be overly optimistic for an upcoming season full of uncertainty, but it appears you are too.

UNI fans are riding the hope that Carlson returns to form and Koch stays out of foul trouble. But, more importantly that you have competency in the backcourt to facilitate an offense who lost their leader last season.

The argument in mid-major power RIGHT NOW for 2017-2018 in this conference begins and ends with Missouri State (until you are reminded of their coach).

No point trying to win a pissing match with a guy who thought UNI football was going to win the national title last year.

He hates all things ISU and refuses to give credit to any Redbird team.