If we go to 12 who do you want (choose 2) poll?

[TheAsianSensation]

If push comes to shove, I trust South Dakota St more than North.

[mvfcfan]

2 point game now at the 8 min timeout. Lots of cheap calls on one end of the court and a lot of no calls at the other end. Typical. I remember this kind of stuff when Wichita was in the MVC. Believe me, I don't miss Wichita at all.

[mvfcfan]

95-85 Wichita State over SDSU. Glad to see that Wichita is so good that they had to sweat it out against a Summit League school at home.

[AndShock]

2 point game now at the 8 min timeout. Lots of cheap calls on one end of the court and a lot of no calls at the other end. Typical. I remember this kind of stuff when Wichita was in the MVC. Believe me, I don't miss Wichita at all.

I can tell

St. John’s plays GCU in Phoenix at 10:30 tonight. It’s not at GCU’s home arena but I bet it will still be a good atmosphere. ESPNU. Watch it and tell me you don’t want them in your conference. Heck, I want them in my conference.

[musiccitybulldog]

Daum from South Dakokta State was really good, could hit some three's.

[mvfcfan]

2 point game now at the 8 min timeout. Lots of cheap calls on one end of the court and a lot of no calls at the other end. Typical. I remember this kind of stuff when Wichita was in the MVC. Believe me, I don't miss Wichita at all.

I can tell

St. John’s plays GCU in Phoenix at 10:30 tonight. It’s not at GCU’s home arena but I bet it will still be a good atmosphere. ESPNU. Watch it and tell me you don’t want them in your conference. Heck, I want them in my conference.

I'd watch it if I had ESPNU. However GCU is just too far away to be in the MVC. I want good midmajor teams from the midwest / great plains area, not from the southwestern US. I also want schools that spend comparatively with the rest of the MVC as well. We don't need another Wichita State. WSU being so good hurt the conference more overall than it helped imo because everyone just assumed that the MVC was turning into a garbage league. For me choosing Northern KY or Milwaukee over GCU is a very easy choice and I'm not that big on either of those schools.

[VUGrad1314]

I really worry about what happens to Belmont after Rick Byrd retires. They have the feel of a one coach program. They don't invest a ton but Byrd is really, really good and wins with local talent. Do they fall off a cliff after he retires?

I originally dismissed this argument thinking that Byrd must have a handpicked successor ready to take the reins who can keep Belmont afloat but then I thought about how other programs have tailed off despite even greater investment and commitment than Belmont has shown and now I think this may be a valid concern. Meanwhile Northern Kentucky stubbed their toe tonight and SLU continues to struggle with teams they're "too good for." Where's the consistency? Hopefully these programs right the ship or it's going to be tough to find the right 12th team again.

[gbphoenix1]

I really worry about what happens to Belmont after Rick Byrd retires. They have the feel of a one coach program. They don't invest a ton but Byrd is really, really good and wins with local talent. Do they fall off a cliff after he retires?

They could always hire Casey Alexander from Lipscomb. He is a Belmont grad who played for Byrd. Now that he has Lipscomb playing well and beating Belmont he is a logical heir and could keep Belmont relevant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Alexander

[IWokeUpLikeThis]

New expansion candidates discussed by outsiders (Arkansas Tech, Kent State, etc).
http://csnbbs.com/thread-836635.html

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

New expansion candidates discussed by outsiders (Arkansas Tech, Kent State, etc).
http://csnbbs.com/thread-836635.html

No, and no. The following 8 teams are the ONLY teams that should be considered for expansion.

Pick 2 of the following 3 groups
Murray State and Northern Kentucky
SDSU and NDSU
Grand Canyon and New Mexico State

or

St. Louis and Belmont along with Murray and NKU if they want to finally get off the pot. Although if just one wants to come then you may see Milwaukee as the 14th team. FYI: I'm a believer in the 14 team model. I doubt they go to 14 though. If they stay at 12 it HAS to be Murray State and either St. Louis, Belmont, or Northern Kentucky.