Order of finish with Murray & Valpo included

[Blers]

Glad you found your way back uniguy. It's nice to get some previous posters back in the mix. I have never understood the need by some posters [ and a few WSU posters were notorious for this] to immediately jump any positive post by another fan base about what they think their team will do. I understand if someone slams your University/Team, the tendency we all have is to fire back. But to me if another Universities fan base has info and reasons for being positive about their teams chances, I want to hear about it and why. It's no threat for them to be optimistic or even a little delusional in their representation; the need some have to immediately slam any positive representation just leads to people not wanting to share info, and who has better inside info on each team than their own fan base. So what if they are overly optimistic, as long as they aren't slamming another team , what's it hurt to hear their reasons for optimism. I really hope the board can evolve to more of those open discussions and sharing of info, and yeah once the season starts we will all be hyper competitive, but still it doesn't have to be where to have anther fan base post something positive has to have an immediate attack.

I'm loving these posts by uniguy, Bearz, and Mikovio. I love hearing fans talk about their teams and understand what they're excited about it. I wanna know why people are excited about their squads!! Everyone's probably gonna pitch their own best case scenarios for their team but that's what I love this time of year!

[Lusuperfan1]

Seems like a consensus from a few CBB Bloggers I've seen that Missouri State and Loyola will be preseason 1 or 2 next season. I've also seen IL St as high as #3 in a projection, I know they've have some graduations and transfers, but consensus is they'll still be a strong team. I've also seen people say they expect growth from Bradley's young team. UNI had a down year last year but they're a strong Program with a good coach.

Here are a few projections I've see on twitter:

https://twitter.com/Catch_N_Shoot/statu ... 8202219520

) Missouri State
2) Loyola
3) Illinois State
4)Valpo
5) Bradley
6) Northern Iowa.

https://twitter.com/d2mart/status/862506833071796224

1. Loyola Chicago 22.4 (14)
2. Missouri State 18.9 (12)
3. Bradley 13.0 (13)
4. Illinois State 12.1 (12)
5. Valparaiso 11.9 (14)
6. Southern Illinois 11.2 (11)
7. Evansville 11.1 (11)
8. Northern Iowa 10.4 (13)
9. Drake 9.2 (12)
10. Indiana State 8.9 (12)

https://twitter.com/CBB_Central/status/ ... 6147871746

1. MO St
2. Loyola
3. IL St
4. Bradley
5. Valpo
6. UNI
7. Murray
8. SIU
9. IND St
10. Drake
11. EVAN
12. UWM

These are absolute jokes.

Let me guess why...

How can a team that win 2-9 against the top six teams last year be considered a top two team. That is a joke.

I don't care who you bring back. You still have Moser who is debatably the worst coach in the league.

What ever happened to my old friend Make MVC Great Again?

[BirdsEyeView]

[Lusuperfan1]

1. Northern Iowa- One heck of a front line with Carlson, Koch and McDonnell. Also really solid back-court with McCloud, Lohaus and Haldeman. Like Isaiah Brown to be switch-gadget knife type of role player. Jake rebounds after a down season last year.

2. Illinois State- People are really forgetting incoming transfer Milik Yarbrough and Christian Romine, both had high major offer in high school. And always, Coach Muller has really good JuCo talent coming in, would always take an impact JuCo player rather than a freshman that needs to have their hands held.

3. Missouri State- Hard to trust Lusk even with the amount of talent he has. Would've been one if Kendrix would've stayed and continued to develop. He was an All-MVC type talent but happened to be coached by Lusk, go figure.

4. Southern Illinois- Solid core with Lloyd, Bol and Fletcher. The addition of Marcus Bartley from St. Louis should help account for the loss of Mike Rodriguez.

5. Murray State- Will win games solely on the fact they want to prove they belong in the conference.

6. Bradley- Wardle is a top three coach in the league. Still a year away but definitely going in a positive direction.

7. Evansville- Dru Smith is a future all-conference player. Ryan Taylor should be more comfortable in the offense, and Gibson should improve as well.

8. Valpo- Going to be a tough transition for the Crusaders. No Peters really hurts them in the MVC.

9. Loyola- Yes they score points, but they also give-up points. Everyone says they lost close games last year, well the rule of thumb is under 10 points, it is a sign of coaching. Moser is still there and has never had an above conference record since Little-Rock, and costs his team more games than winning them.

10. Drake- Another basement season for the Bulldogs.

11. Indiana State- Larry Legend is coming around any time soon.

This might be the most illuminating basketball prognostication and analysis since Dr. Naismith invented the game

[GoSIU88]

1. Northern Iowa- One heck of a front line with Carlson, Koch and McDonnell. Also really solid back-court with McCloud, Lohaus and Haldeman. Like Isaiah Brown to be switch-gadget knife type of role player. Jake rebounds after a down season last year.

2. Illinois State- People are really forgetting incoming transfer Milik Yarbrough and Christian Romine, both had high major offer in high school. And always, Coach Muller has really good JuCo talent coming in, would always take an impact JuCo player rather than a freshman that needs to have their hands held.

3. Missouri State- Hard to trust Lusk even with the amount of talent he has. Would've been one if Kendrix would've stayed and continued to develop. He was an All-MVC type talent but happened to be coached by Lusk, go figure.

4. Southern Illinois- Solid core with Lloyd, Bol and Fletcher. The addition of Marcus Bartley from St. Louis should help account for the loss of Mike Rodriguez.

5. Murray State- Will win games solely on the fact they want to prove they belong in the conference.

6. Bradley- Wardle is a top three coach in the league. Still a year away but definitely going in a positive direction.

7. Evansville- Dru Smith is a future all-conference player. Ryan Taylor should be more comfortable in the offense, and Gibson should improve as well.

8. Valpo- Going to be a tough transition for the Crusaders. No Peters really hurts them in the MVC.

9. Loyola- Yes they score points, but they also give-up points. Everyone says they lost close games last year, well the rule of thumb is under 10 points, it is a sign of coaching. Moser is still there and has never had an above conference record since Little-Rock, and costs his team more games than winning them.

10. Drake- Another basement season for the Bulldogs.

11. Indiana State- Larry Legend is coming around any time soon.

This might be the most illuminating basketball prognostication and analysis since Dr. Naismith invented the game

I've seen the defense that Loyola threw at SIU last night....it's the same defensive intensity the Salukis use to throw at opponents when Bryan Mullins played for the Salukis. That wasn't Moser's defense, it was Bryan Mullins'.

[Redhawk]

I've seen the defense that Loyola threw at SIU last night....it's the same defensive intensity the Salukis use to throw at opponents when Bryan Mullins played for the Salukis. That wasn't Moser's defense, it was Bryan Mullins'.

I wish Bryan's brother Brendan could teach the same defensive intensity to ISUr's guards.
They are like turnstiles on the perimeter!

[smidge34]

Looks to me like Murray would be competing for the MVC championship this season instead of the OVC one we just won had we been invited last end of last season like we should have been.

[ptownbraves]

Looks to me like Murray would be competing for the MVC championship this season instead of the OVC one we just won had we been invited last end of last season like we should have been.

Murray State is a good team, but there's a big difference playing in the #23rd ranked conference and the #9th. Ask Valpo. No way to know how they'd do.

[RacerJoeD]

Not disagreeing with your point, but my Racers did beat the #2 and #3 seed teams in the MVC this year, Illinois State on the road. I would have liked our chances. Tifwiw

[mvfcfan]

The Racers would have finished at least 2nd this year. They could very well win a game in the NCAA tournament if they win their conference tournament.