Too early 2018-19 predictions

[IWokeUpLikeThis]

I'm not convinced Dana is going to succeed. He only did alright with TSU. TSU...

1) Tennessee State is the only HBCU not in a HBCU conference.
2) Tennessee State operates on the #285 MBB budget and in the OVC’s bottom half.
3) Tennessee State has 5 .500 seasons in 22. 3 of the 5 from Dana Ford, who coached 4 years.

No one in college basketball would use “only doing alright with TSU” as a negative to a coach’s resume. Everyone would recognize it as a positive.

[Mikovio]

Sure it's a positive but TSU also had 2 winning seasons the 3 years before Ford got there.

2011–12 record 20–13 (11–5 OVC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011–12_Tennessee_State_Tigers_basketball_team

2012–13 record 18–15 (11–5 OVC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012–13_Tennessee_State_Tigers_basketball_team

They also have a long history of success, including 3 NAIA titles and 4 Division 2 Final Fours before jumping to D1. Nashville ain't the hardest place to recruit to.

[BEARZ77]

So what's your point??

[Blers]

Given what MSU already has and what he's done with far less I don't think there's any reason to expect Ford taking more than a year or two to turn MSU into a competitor.

[Mikovio]

I just thought he was being a little overhyped with the "5 .500 seasons in 22" line. Not to say he didn't do a good job.

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

I just thought he was being a little overhyped with the "5 .500 seasons in 22" line. Not to say he didn't do a good job.

I haven't looked up the past 22 years of TSU's record but something doesn't add up. I keep seeing 5 winning seasons in last 22 years and ford has 3 of them. I do know Ford has 3/4 winning season at TSU so that makes sense. Then I see that there was 2 winning seasons the 2 years before ford? That's 5 winning seasons in 6 years...so they didn't have a winning season from years 7-22? Or, the whole 5/22 thing is crap?

[BEARZ77]

I just thought he was being a little overhyped with the "5 .500 seasons in 22" line. Not to say he didn't do a good job.

I haven't looked up the past 22 years of TSU's record but something doesn't add up. I keep seeing 5 winning seasons in last 22 years and ford has 3 of them. I do know Ford has 3/4 winning season at TSU so that makes sense. Then I see that there was 2 winning seasons the 2 years before ford? That's 5 winning seasons in 6 years...so they didn't have a winning season from years 7-22? Or, the whole 5/22 thing is crap?

You've got it; from 1996-1997 to 2011-12[ 16 years] they were under .500. Then they had 2 years above it, followed by a pair of years at 5-25, 5-26. Then Ford had 3 years at.500 or better. And the whole issue of recruiting in Nashville benefit when you are in the same city with Vandy, Belmont and Lipscomb, and a HBC is something to consider.

Again the point being, of course Ford has a lot to prove at this level. But he made a program respectable at a place that had struggled to do so except briefly for 20+ years; he won a National Coach of the year award in only his second season as a HC. He wasn't my main choice as our next HC, but the more I've gotten to observe and listen, there's a lot to like. He got to cut his teeth as a HC on someone elses dime after several years being mentored by two well respected MVC coaches prior to that. The guy can flat recruit because he doesn't recognize limitations and knows he has the physical resources to compete and how to sell that. I have no idea how good he is on the bench, but like he said "you look a lot better at the x's and o's when you get the right jimmy and joes ".

[IWokeUpLikeThis]

I just thought he was being a little overhyped with the "5 .500 seasons in 22" line. Not to say he didn't do a good job.

Then I see that there was 2 winning seasons the 2 years before ford? That's 5 winning seasons in 6 years...so they didn't have a winning season from years 7-22? Or, the whole 5/22 thing is crap?

There were not 2 winning seasons the 2 years before Ford. TSU was 5-25 when hiring Ford before going 5-26 in Ford’s inaugural year because he didn’t have his own players yet.

Once Ford got his own players, TSU put up 3 straight winning seasons - without a single player from TSU’s other 2 winning teams that predated Ford by 2 & 3 years.

TSU’s budget ranked 285th and below OVC average.

He only did alright with TSU. TSU....

This comment was probably not aware of TSU’s budget, history, or HBCU loner status.

[jturner38]

1. Loyola
2. ISU Red
3. SIU
4. Bradley
5. ISU Blue
6. Valpo
7. MSU
8. UNI
9. Evansville
10. Drake

[freddycat68]

Looks like 7-1 Ari Boya has arrived at Bradley and will play this coming season (he was originally slated for 2019 but seems to have reclassified successfully to 2018). If the reports on this kid are accurate (BU got him because Boya's AAU coach is the father of a BU assistant; BU otherwise has no chance at this potentially high-major talent), this moves the needle a little bit for the 18-19 season. Bradley's front court is going to be huge and athletic. We'll see what Wardle does with it. If he can coach the way most of us think he can, hard to see BU lower than 3. But yajusneverknow.

https://bradleybraves.com/news/2018/6/1 ... ogram.aspx

https://twitter.com/zsmart3/status/1000977582857302016

https://twitter.com/hoop_mia/status/842 ... 86?lang=en