Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Discuss the MVC hoops season here.

Choose two: Who do you think the MVC should add?

Murray State
129
47%
Northern Kentucky
36
13%
UW-Milwaukee
13
5%
Oakland
1
0%
South Dakota State
12
4%
Southeast Missouri State
3
1%
Belmont
57
21%
Grand Canyon
6
2%
UT-Arlington
7
3%
Denver
13
5%
 
Total votes : 277

Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby racerlover » March 28th, 2019, 3:00 pm

third rail wrote:I'm sure even Barry Hinson could win an OVC tournament.


He couldn't get it done in the mediocre MVC last year. And believe it or not, mediocre won't get it done in the OVC either. As this point I don't even care anymore if the MVC calls us. One losing season in the past 32 years. Smart money says we will keep on winning, no matter what league we're in. It would be great to move up to a higher ranked conference, but then again, that higher ranking didn't matter come tournament time.
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Postby IWokeUpLikeThis » March 28th, 2019, 3:16 pm

SIU’s margin of defeat vs 3 Top 25 teams: 29
SIU’s margin of defeat vs Murray st at halftime: 31
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby All-MVC Fan » March 28th, 2019, 5:40 pm

This is idiotic. Murray State has been winning for 30 years with multiple coaches. They just win - it’s an expectation for them. They would immediately be a top three MVC team every year.

If our own programs won’t step up, go get ones who will.
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby racerlover » March 28th, 2019, 6:28 pm

http://thenews.org/2019/03/27/racers-score-big-bucks-for-the-university/

“From Nov. 1 through March 23, the men’s basketball team’s success led to more than $277 million in earned media coverage and publicity,”

Too bad it was wasted under the OVC banner and not the MVC.
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby VUGrad1314 » March 28th, 2019, 9:48 pm

third rail wrote:I'm just happy the league presidents are a little smarter than most.

Stop aspring to be Murray State and the OVC. My god people. I'm sure even Barry Hinson could win an OVC tournament.

Maybe we should invest in our own programs instead of hoping to strike gold with one perennial 85 RPI team.

I'm sure that will offend plenty of you, but let's help our own membership win.


This is such an asinine and arrogant comment. We aren't aspiring to be the OVC by advocating for Murray State. We are trying to elevate a quality program into a league they belong in. If you're against adding Murray State YOU want to be like the OVC not us.

Murray State has won 3 tournament games since 2010... Only UNI and Loyola can claim that same level of success over the same time span and several MVC members haven't even BEEN TO a tournament in that span

Murray State is about to have its third player drafted and second lottery pick since 2013. No MVC school can claim that.

2 all Americans 2 top 25 rankings since 2012 can any MVC member claim this?

Top 85 RPI? Try top 63 five times since 09-10.

Oh and a great loyal fanbase that travels

It's all about units brand recognition Q1 games and making Arch Madness great again. Murray State checks all of those boxes.
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby IllinoisState » March 29th, 2019, 7:43 am

Not only does adding a team like Murray State mean more and better teams are in The Valley, but it means less quality teams are in rival conferences and more eyes are on us.
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby VUGrad1314 » March 29th, 2019, 3:28 pm

I can no longer support NKU moving to the MVC after reading this... What a bunch of scumbags in that athletic department

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/behind ... university
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby racerlover » March 29th, 2019, 4:25 pm

VUGrad1314 wrote:I can no longer support NKU moving to the MVC after reading this... What a bunch of scumbags in that athletic department

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/behind ... university


The female Bobby Knight?
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby Ricardo del Rio » March 30th, 2019, 3:42 pm

bleach wrote:I wish nobody was an option. I just don't buy the more teams equals more bids. If you are a P6 conference it does, for us it just means diluting the revenue from our one and rarely two bids.


Ditto.
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Re: Updated 1/6/18: MVC Expansion Poll

Postby Dean Wormer » March 30th, 2019, 4:47 pm

VUGrad1314 wrote:I can no longer support NKU moving to the MVC after reading this... What a bunch of scumbags in that athletic department

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/behind ... university



First of all, looks like there are two sides to the gossip:

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/nkuwbb-stands-strong

This is exactly why no one takes you seriously. An allegation against a coach by a player gets some ink, and because in the four whole days since this one sided charge surfaces, the university didn't jump up and fire her immediately, they are no longer in your fantasy expansion camp. Even if these allegations are true, conference membership isn't decided by the actions of one poor coach. If that was the case, Bradley would get sent packing over Wardle, Wichita would have been thrown out years ago over Gene Stephenson, the Big 10 would have axed Indiana, and so on.

This thread has ran its course. Actually, it ran it about 84 pages ago. It has been somewhat amusing to watch you add teams over a single upset win, panic and remove teams over a single loss, or tabloid gossip, advocate the conference talk with non-qualified members solely to make other teams jealous, Elgin should be fired for not acting upon your posts, and so forth.

Nearly everyone agrees Murray is a fine school, and would be a compatible addition. Most everyone also agrees that there isn't a solid 12th, no matter how many schools you talk in circles about, and most agree that adding Murray or even a solid 12th doesn't automatically add bids. Those like you who disagree have also made your points over and over and over and over. There is nothing to add to this conversation, and hasn't been in quite some time. Some school having a crappy womens basketball coach isn't relevant to any discussion about MVC expansion.
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