MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby sivert » April 4th, 2020, 3:20 pm

I think Iowa is full. They were over for next year until Pemsl transferred.
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby Drakey » April 4th, 2020, 4:24 pm

sivert wrote:I think Iowa is full. They were over for next year until Pemsl transferred.


They'll make room.
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby Salukimadness86 » April 4th, 2020, 4:47 pm

bradley_townie wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:Liam Robbins transferring....YIKES!!!


Brutal. He absolutely destroyed Bradley this year. As much as you hate playing against him, you hate to see good talent leave the league even more.


Agree. Wait until they change the transfer rule of no sitting out. This will hurt Mids immensely, as BCS schools will poach the best players from our league and others.
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby VUGrad1314 » April 5th, 2020, 2:44 am

This sucks. I'm so sorry Drake. You guys were due to take a nice step forward next year with him. Hopefully this ends up being a situation like with JFL last year and he ends up not liking his options and going back.
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby Majik45 » April 5th, 2020, 6:20 am

This really sucks. I loved Robin's game.

His uncle is an assistant at Minnesota, so maybe he ends up there.
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby BCPanther » April 5th, 2020, 9:00 am

I think it's Minnesota. Garza isn't going and Iowa is way imbalanced to the big side.

Wichita is a possibility as well, he went to prep school down there.
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby tribecalledquest » April 5th, 2020, 10:53 am

Salukimadness86 wrote:
bradley_townie wrote:
BirdsEyeView wrote:Liam Robbins transferring....YIKES!!!


Brutal. He absolutely destroyed Bradley this year. As much as you hate playing against him, you hate to see good talent leave the league even more.


Agree. Wait until they change the transfer rule of no sitting out. This will hurt Mids immensely, as BCS schools will poach the best players from our league and others.


We've been through this topic a bunch. The transfer rule has not harmed the MVC overall as much as people think or want to think it will. Recently transfers have been a net gain for the league.

And it's on the current coaches to make it a place players want to stay. Stop blaming it all on "poaching". It's not like these players had never heard of bigger schools until they decided to transfer. The decisions are on them - no one else.
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby BEARZ77 » April 5th, 2020, 1:04 pm

tribecalledquest wrote:We've been through this topic a bunch. The transfer rule has not harmed the MVC overall as much as people think or want to think it will. Recently transfers have been a net gain for the league.

And it's on the current coaches to make it a place players want to stay. Stop blaming it all on "poaching". It's not like these players had never heard of bigger schools until they decided to transfer. The decisions are on them - no one else.


While in general I agree that the transfer climate has not been decidedly disadvantageous to MVC teams, I think you're overlooking the general theme we're starting to see across college basketball. We have a system that is now allowing similar player movement as we see in pro leagues w/o the protections teams have at that level. In the pros there are binding contracts and spelled out times when players can move, and when they do, a team is compensated with either money or draft picks to make up for their costs in developing that player to a level where he had value on the market.There are no such built in protections or compensations for college teams. Basically teams at lower levels are incurring all the up front and developmental costs , have no protection, and then get no compensation when a player leaves. Yes the decision is on the player, and yes it's inherent on the coach to try to develop a climate/environment that would induce players to want to stay, but it's naive to believe that this type of system which is stacked now totally to benefit the player and the major programs won't eventually relegate most MM programs to a "farm system" status .

College sports are supposed to be about maintaining a level field for competition, not to support a system for a select few programs to win and dominate the field. Even at the professional level where the goal is totally about that, they recognize it's important to build in systems and safeguards to try to maintain competitive balance, hence they have the draft where lower level teams get opportunity to build with superior talent, revenue sharing and spending ceilings so that a few franchises can't just out spend everyone else, and contracts and specific rules for when a player can make choices about moving elsewhere. We are moving to a system with all the player movement opportunity that is available at the professional level w/o any of the safe guards to maintain competitive balance.

I've noted before the NCAA Tournament is an example whereby all the advantages are in place for the P-5 to get most of the bids, and because the revenue is tied to the bids and then subsequent success of said teams, it simply reinforces the status quo. To me I've always felt that after paying participants expenses, the rest of the pie should be equally distributed across all 300+ teams, which would be a similar form of revenue sharing you see at the professional level. You can't do a draft, but you could also set up a system whereby schools accepting transfers pay a predetermined amount into a fund that then reimburses schools losing players for their developmental expenses. Schools/coaches would have to think a bit before automatically accepting a transfer just as in the pros they have to consider the cost of signing free agents.
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby Birdfan2018 » April 5th, 2020, 5:34 pm

Majik45 wrote:This really sucks. I loved Robin's game.

His uncle is an assistant at Minnesota, so maybe he ends up there.

Committed to Minnesota.
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Re: MVC - Basketball Players in the 2020 Transfer Portal

Postby Drakey » April 5th, 2020, 6:09 pm

Robbins wants to play for that great Minnesota coach. Didn't Pitino poach the Redbirds center a couple years ago too?
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