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Re: Arch Madness

Postby ahunte1 » January 25th, 2021, 8:21 am

Seth Davis wrote this today:

The next two weeks should bring more clarity about the fate of conference tournaments. Between the grind of a disrupted season and the risk of someone on an NCAA Tournament team contracting the virus, I anticipate we will see many tournaments either being moved earlier (to make it easier to comply with the NCAA Tournament’s seven-day testing protocol) or canceled. The financial upside of these tournaments is not as big as you’d think, especially if fans are attending in reduced numbers or not at all.


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Re: Arch Madness

Postby Kyle@MOState » January 25th, 2021, 12:48 pm

ahunte1 wrote:Seth Davis wrote this today:

The next two weeks should bring more clarity about the fate of conference tournaments. Between the grind of a disrupted season and the risk of someone on an NCAA Tournament team contracting the virus, I anticipate we will see many tournaments either being moved earlier (to make it easier to comply with the NCAA Tournament’s seven-day testing protocol) or canceled. The financial upside of these tournaments is not as big as you’d think, especially if fans are attending in reduced numbers or not at all.


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https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... is-season/

They also could have changed the title to this article to "Nearly 3 out of 4 Coaches Are In Favor of Conference Tournaments Still Happening"... But, here is the kicker... Most of the coaches that want the conference tournaments canceled are in power conferences where they aren't exactly worried about getting an at large bid. Most of the mid to low major coaches are in favor of conference tournaments still taking place. We will see how things end up with the regular season in the MVC, but in a year that has been so uneven in competition, conference tournaments are the great equalizer. If we wind up and every team plays each other twice, then I wouldn't have much of an issue with the tournament not taking place.

That said, I am still wanting Arch Madness to happen, and I am still planning on attending. I think the conference at this point is still plugging away and planning as if they are going to have the tournament.
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Re: Arch Madness

Postby MVC Phil » January 26th, 2021, 12:33 pm

These Power 5 coaches think they are all locks.

I don't see it that way. If they all back out and teams with no chance in a normal year gets to play a watered down field you are adding additional teams and someone will be left out.

Look at the ACC -- Louisville (11-3 4th in ACC) and Pitt (8-3 5th in ACC) coaches both on record against the ACC having one. Neither is a lock even though the coaches think there teams are. So they don't show up with teams 1, 2 and 3. The rest play and then you have Wake, BC or Miami win (combined 4-19 in ACC). Someone else loses a spot.

The Big 12, Big Ten and Big East are all stronger then ACC this year and with Duke and UNC down the NET is down.

What about Gonzaga -- Let's say they stay home. The WCC gets a 2nd team with the usual bubble worry.

A10 with St. Louis right now same thing.

My point is the Power 5's think they are safe -- I wouldn't be so sure.

I also see the likes of Seth Davis and others trying to "break a story" in order to be 1st. They use sources to fit there idea. and ignore others. He also forgot TV money??? CBS, ESPN, FOX have lots of games Championship week with lots of dollars at stake --- far more then attendance dollars.

Anyone see the pushback in Michigan from the players --- they want to play.

Ok I think I am done rambling for today --- MVC friends have at it with your replies.

I think they will go on because of the TV money
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Re: Arch Madness

Postby Kyle@MOState » January 26th, 2021, 3:32 pm

MVC Phil wrote:I think they will go on because of the TV money



I don't know if someone will come in and steal the MVC's coveted Championship Sunday spot on big CBS, but you'd imagine the conference would want to keep that spot. I'm sure it's a decent chunk of money and great exposure for the league.
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Re: Arch Madness

Postby Kyle@MOState » January 27th, 2021, 12:38 pm

https://www.nhl.com/blues/news/blues-to ... -320724002

Looks like the Blues are going to start allowing a few more fans starting next month. They are capping it at 1400 for the next homestand, but it sounds like they are looking to expand beyond that going forward if everything goes well with protocols. This just sounds like they are ramping up capacity by Arch Madness. I hope so.
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Re: Arch Madness

Postby Adunk33 » January 27th, 2021, 12:43 pm

Blues just announced that they're increasing allowed attendance to 1400 effective Feb 2.

May mean nothing for Arch Madness but could help establish procedures. I'm sure when making a decision about fans, the conference will consider that fans will be traveling from four different states, but are only tied to Missouri's guidelines.

I feel like it'd be easy to get 5-6k (probably right around who would be going anyway) in there and remain spaced out.

I've also had the thought that maybe they move it to an on-campus location for just this year and only invite the top 6 seed to lessen travel/contact. Just a thought, but who knows.
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Re: Arch Madness

Postby chitown fanatic » January 27th, 2021, 5:11 pm

allowing fans at Enterprise is a big step in the positive direction for fans at Arch Madness. I'm predicting a 3K cap which would be more than enough for us diehards
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Re: Arch Madness

Postby Red » January 28th, 2021, 2:33 pm

chitown fanatic wrote:allowing fans at Enterprise is a big step in the positive direction for fans at Arch Madness. I'm predicting a 3K cap which would be more than enough for us diehards

So are we pretty confident that there will be an Arch Madness?
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Re: Arch Madness

Postby Bulldog2323 » January 28th, 2021, 5:26 pm

The Atlantic 10 Tournament has moved from Barclays Center (Home of the Brooklyn Nets) to be co-hosted by Richmond and VCU who's campuses are only 6 miles apart from each other.
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Re: Arch Madness

Postby Adunk33 » January 28th, 2021, 11:13 pm

Bulldog2323 wrote:The Atlantic 10 Tournament has moved from Barclays Center (Home of the Brooklyn Nets) to be co-hosted by Richmond and VCU who's campuses are only 6 miles apart from each other.


I wouldn’t be surprised to see conferences outside of the P6 that don’t already have their conference tournaments on campuses to do so. Unfortunately, our league is pretty spread out if the goal was to use two conference venues. I believe Illinois State and Bradley are the closest and it’s about a 40 minute drive or so.

I know Bradley has a separate arena for WBB and VB. They could use that and Carver. Anyone else in the conference have a different facility for gym sports? If they go that route, Peoria might make the most sense since it is fairly centrally located. But that wouldn’t bode well for those wishing to attend. The states guidelines for fans at live sports is pretty unclear.
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