CBB Free Agency

[tribecalledquest]

At the Valley level the portal mostly hurts our teams. Power 5 teams are using us a farm system. "Go to the Valley and if you put up numbers we'll call you up if we need you."

We have had post after post the last few years disproving this point.

[BCPanther]

At the Valley level the portal mostly hurts our teams. Power 5 teams are using us a farm system. "Go to the Valley and if you put up numbers we'll call you up if we need you."

Isn't Drake having it's best sustained run in 50 years built on the backs of multiple transfers?

**That seemingly have endless eligibility

[Adunk33]

At the Valley level the portal mostly hurts our teams. Power 5 teams are using us a farm system. "Go to the Valley and if you put up numbers we'll call you up if we need you."

Isn't Drake having it's best sustained run in 50 years built on the backs of multiple transfers?

**That seemingly have endless eligibility

I'll say this too, that the Portal can do good things for teams. For example, my expectations for this year's ISU team aren't in the dirt because, through the portal, they were able to bring in proven D1 talent. If Pedon brought in 6 freshmen, it would be a totally different story.

The portal door definitely swings both ways. I think we as fans just remember the ones that got away. I'm sure Drake is still a little sour on Liam Robinson, which is one of the more notably transfers out in recent memory. Then this year you had two of the top players in the league with Reeves and Mosley kicking rocks.

[BuBrave2006]

At the Valley level the portal mostly hurts our teams. Power 5 teams are using us a farm system. "Go to the Valley and if you put up numbers we'll call you up if we need you."

We have had post after post the last few years disproving this point.

This just isn't true. Who were the most impactful players in the MVC last season that were brought in via the portal/instant eligibility (I'm disregarding grad transfers because that has always been a thing)? Kobe King? Donovan Clay?

Now look at who left to transfer up in the same year. Terry Roberts, Isiaih Mosley, Noah Carter, Antonio Reeves.

You tell me who is better, the players coming in or the players going out?

[Drakey]

I think I would rather build a team made up of the players leaving as opposed to the players coming in.

[tribecalledquest]

At the Valley level the portal mostly hurts our teams. Power 5 teams are using us a farm system. "Go to the Valley and if you put up numbers we'll call you up if we need you."

We have had post after post the last few years disproving this point.

This just isn't true. Who were the most impactful players in the MVC last season that were brought in via the portal/instant eligibility (I'm disregarding grad transfers because that has always been a thing)? Kobe King? Donovan Clay?

Now look at who left to transfer up in the same year. Terry Roberts, Isiaih Mosley, Noah Carter, Antonio Reeves.

You tell me who is better, the players coming in or the players going out?

It has been discussed prior to this season - that - in general transfers have helped MVC teams as much as they have hurt them. No doubt a lot of good players left this off-season.

I haven’t seen any of the newcomers play enough to tell you how good they are.

[tribecalledquest]

The NIL has also changed the equation on this. That is for sure. Pre NIL the transfers have been good to the league. Things are for sure different now.

Both the NIL and the transfer rule are fair to the guys actually playing the games we enjoy watching.

[BEARZ77]

At the Valley level the portal mostly hurts our teams. Power 5 teams are using us a farm system. "Go to the Valley and if you put up numbers we'll call you up if we need you."

We have had post after post the last few years disproving this point.

This just isn't true. Who were the most impactful players in the MVC last season that were brought in via the portal/instant eligibility (I'm disregarding grad transfers because that has always been a thing)? Kobe King? Donovan Clay?

Now look at who left to transfer up in the same year. Terry Roberts, Isiaih Mosley, Noah Carter, Antonio Reeves.

You tell me who is better, the players coming in or the players going out?

You used last years transfers in and this years transfers out . When you use both side of this year, it looks a lot different. Missouri State lost more players than anyone, but at the same time we brought in 2 top 100 4 star P-5 transfers, 3 guards who started for teams that made the NCAA tourney last year, plus another pair of P-5 transfers. Even losing a talent like Mosley, we brought in far better talent than we lost . Indiana State is built almost entirely thru the portal; Loyola, not here anymore, has used the portal to great benefit.Murray State will be a top team this year again with a lot of portal talent. It is what it is; you either assume a victims role or you figure out how to use it.

[BuBrave2006]

We have had post after post the last few years disproving this point.

This just isn't true. Who were the most impactful players in the MVC last season that were brought in via the portal/instant eligibility (I'm disregarding grad transfers because that has always been a thing)? Kobe King? Donovan Clay?

Now look at who left to transfer up in the same year. Terry Roberts, Isiaih Mosley, Noah Carter, Antonio Reeves.

You tell me who is better, the players coming in or the players going out?

You used last years transfers in and this years transfers out . When you use both side of this year, it looks a lot different. Missouri State lost more players than anyone, but at the same time we brought in 2 top 100 4 star P-5 transfers, 3 guards who started for teams that made the NCAA tourney last year, plus another pair of P-5 transfers. Even losing a talent like Mosley, we brought in far better talent than we lost . Indiana State is built almost entirely thru the portal; Loyola, not here anymore, has used the portal to great benefit.Murray State will be a top team this year again with a lot of portal talent. It is what it is; you either assume a victims role or you figure out how to use it.

Missouri State has seemed to use the portal well. Indiana State has the chance to get there, but they brought in a roster through the portal and still finished 9th, they need to develop. Loyola has actually had very few immediate impact instantly eligible players (going into last season).

Custer, Townes, and Norris all sat a year. Schwieger and Knight were both grad transfers. The best player Loyola had gotten that benefitted from the immediately eligible rule (prior to this offseason) that helped the MVC was Tate Hall.

You;re right though on my comparison. I made that comparison because I didn't want to look at this years incoming transfers before they played. I don't want to place an evaluation on someone until we have seen them play in the valley. But if we look at the 2021 transfers in to transfers out, the best "immediate eligible transfer rule" transfers in was Kobe King, and the best transfers out were DJ Horne and Jake LaRavia. Again, the top players leaving are better than the top players coming in.

The current portal setup gives conferences like the MVC a chance to rebuild and replace the players they have lost, and that is great, but there is no question in my mind that we are consistently losing better players that we are bringing in. Now I'm not complaining about that, it's just the truth. It is what it is. I'm happy the players have these opportunities. I hate that Terry Roberts left Bradley but I've got no problem with him having the ability to do what he thinks is best for him. This is 100% the reality of the world that we live in right now and I don't think trying to sugarcoat it and pretend the current portal setup is good for mid major conferences helps anything.

[BCPanther]

LaRavia left because of a coaching change. Had Lansing not gotten fired he would have stayed.