Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby squirrel » October 8th, 2024, 3:32 pm

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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby TylerDurden » October 8th, 2024, 6:59 pm

Mikovio wrote:The new proposal, however, would eliminate all games against current Group of Five and FCS teams. The 70 schools would be shopped as a single-entity media rights package. It is not immediately clear which 70 schools would be included.
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The ACC (18) + B1G (18) + Big 12 (16) + SEC (16) = 68

Everyone else rallies their donors to fight for two spots.
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby IllinoisState » October 9th, 2024, 6:59 am

TylerDurden wrote:
Mikovio wrote:The new proposal, however, would eliminate all games against current Group of Five and FCS teams. The 70 schools would be shopped as a single-entity media rights package. It is not immediately clear which 70 schools would be included.


The ACC (18) + B1G (18) + Big 12 (16) + SEC (16) = 68

Everyone else rallies their donors to fight for two spots.[/quote]

Oregon State and Washington State?
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby MovingScreenOfDeath » October 9th, 2024, 7:04 am

TylerDurden wrote:
The ACC (18) + B1G (18) + Big 12 (16) + SEC (16) = 68

Everyone else rallies their donors to fight for two spots.


Is Notre Dame already counted towards the 18 for the ACC? If not there's no way they're not included a song of the last 2 spots.
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby TylerDurden » October 9th, 2024, 7:29 am

MovingScreenOfDeath wrote:
TylerDurden wrote:
The ACC (18) + B1G (18) + Big 12 (16) + SEC (16) = 68

Everyone else rallies their donors to fight for two spots.


Is Notre Dame already counted towards the 18 for the ACC? If not there's no way they're not included a song of the last 2 spots.


Yes, Notre Dame already included.

IllinoisState wrote:Oregon State and Washington State?


I think they have a chance but they've already been left behind. I didn't do a deep dive through who is left, but you'd think schools who have some big backers/politicians on their side would be in the mix.

IMO, there are fewer candidates for those two spots than there were bubble teams for last year's NCAA tournament.

While some of the G5 schools have great local fanbases, not many of them move the TV needle.
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby BCPanther » October 9th, 2024, 8:02 am

Oregon State, Washington State, San Diego State, Boise, Memphis, Tulane, UTSA, UNLV, Colorado State and the service academies in a battle royal for two spots.
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby squirrel » October 9th, 2024, 8:27 am

Villanova moves up in football and claims one of the spots. Public and government pressure (keep in mind their support will be needed if any legal challenges or Title IX issues arise out of the endeavor) to include the service academies spikes, and they push the limit to 72, and Navy, Army and Air Force round out the deal.
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby IllinoisState » October 9th, 2024, 9:58 am

TylerDurden wrote:
IllinoisState wrote:Oregon State and Washington State?


I think they have a chance but they've already been left behind. I didn't do a deep dive through who is left, but you'd think schools who have some big backers/politicians on their side would be in the mix.

IMO, there are fewer candidates for those two spots than there were bubble teams for last year's NCAA tournament.

While some of the G5 schools have great local fanbases, not many of them move the TV needle.


I would think they would want to go back to teams that we already a part of their group and not let anyone new in. They also have the largest athletic budgets of anyone not in a power conference.

BCPanther wrote:Oregon State, Washington State, San Diego State, Boise, Memphis, Tulane, UTSA, UNLV, Colorado State and the service academies in a battle royal for two spots.


I do not see them adding Boise, UTSA, UNLV, or Colorado State.

Memphis is good, but there are already 2 Tennessee teams and Mississippi being so close.

Tulane is close to LSU so that doesn't help, but they have been on the rise for football recently.

If they add 1 service academy I think they add 2 and it would be Army Navy because of the rivalry despite Air Force being better than Navy.

San Diego State is my choice for a team not named Washington State or Oregon State due to being in California in a big city.

I don't think any of this matters currently because I don't see private equity firms being allowed in even with an "infusion" of money. It would take a little longer, but handling it all themselves would be better in the long term and I think wanting control would win out over wanting money now.
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby squirrel » October 9th, 2024, 10:37 am

I also think that even though initially, there will be a cap around 70-72, if there are major markets out there and dominant programs in the outside division, they could likely move to 80-86 in time for their second media rights deal. And then the doors will officially be closed, IMO.
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Re: Mountain West dangerously close to dissolving

Postby ReZyNeZy » October 9th, 2024, 10:56 am

A project like this opens the door for football to completely break away from the greater college athletics world. Hopefully if a deal like this goes through. Realignment takes a backseat for the time being.
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