MVC Games Week 6 2024-25

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Re: MVC Games Week 6 2024-25

Postby Redbird82 » December 15th, 2024, 9:37 pm

ISU had to hold on, but a nice win over St Louis and the ex Indiana state coach/ players. Hopefully we can get on a roll going into conference play
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Re: MVC Games Week 6 2024-25

Postby Kyle_Saluki_17 » December 15th, 2024, 9:41 pm

tribecalledquest wrote:
harley93davidson wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:Bradley isn't a big boy program.

Still probably good enough to win the MVC but this isn't a "special" team like a lot of people thought/hoped. The Valley as a whole isn't close to the WCC. On many levels.

Please look at the Santa Clara and San Francisco schedules. Then when you want to repeat a coach line that "no one will play us" - stop talking. The games are there for teams and coaches that are willing to play them and seek them out.

It's one of many reasons why Bradley and the MVC are what they are.

Bradley was close to being really good - but in the spring, instead of getting with 2024 and competing for players in the portal, they went ahead and gave a scholarship to walk on Cade Hartke, gave a ride BACK to Goanar Bileuw who had already gone through senior Day, and gave a scholarship to D2 transfers Connor DIllon because he's from Peoria. All three of those guys were DNP yesterday.

It was just a chickenshit way of doing things and it is why you have lost your only two REAL games on the schedule thus far.


I essentially thought something similar yesterday: Bradley's job isn't to win the league or make march madness, their job is to play well enough that their metrics help drake get an at large if they should need it. Every league needs its second tier programs that help keep the top half exciting competitive and fun, but the expectation for Bradley was to be a little above that.


Putting Bradley in the second tier and clearly behind Drake is also a stretch.


But clearly true if you look at the NET. Drake also has something that Bradley doesn’t have… 2 wins that are Q2 or better. One of those is dangerously close to Q1.
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Re: MVC Games Week 6 2024-25

Postby BCPanther » December 15th, 2024, 9:46 pm

tribecalledquest wrote:Bradley isn't a big boy program.

Still probably good enough to win the MVC but this isn't a "special" team like a lot of people thought/hoped. The Valley as a whole isn't close to the WCC. On many levels.

Please look at the Santa Clara and San Francisco schedules. Then when you want to repeat a coach line that "no one will play us" - stop talking. The games are there for teams and coaches that are willing to play them and seek them out.

It's one of many reasons why Bradley and the MVC are what they are.

Bradley was close to being really good - but in the spring, instead of getting with 2024 and competing for players in the portal, they went ahead and gave a scholarship to walk on Cade Hartke, gave a ride BACK to Goanar Bileuw who had already gone through senior Day, and gave a scholarship to D2 transfers Connor DIllon because he's from Peoria. All three of those guys were DNP yesterday.

It was just a chickenshit way of doing things and it is why you have lost your only two REAL games on the schedule thus far.


There's exactly one program in this league that schedules like they give a s*** and then this very board gets all pissed when they've got losses in the non-con and then does well once league play hits.

Not calling you out because you don't do it but that's always the overwhelming sentiment here...
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Re: MVC Games Week 6 2024-25

Postby tribecalledquest » December 16th, 2024, 10:29 am

BCPanther wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:Bradley isn't a big boy program.

Still probably good enough to win the MVC but this isn't a "special" team like a lot of people thought/hoped. The Valley as a whole isn't close to the WCC. On many levels.

Please look at the Santa Clara and San Francisco schedules. Then when you want to repeat a coach line that "no one will play us" - stop talking. The games are there for teams and coaches that are willing to play them and seek them out.

It's one of many reasons why Bradley and the MVC are what they are.

Bradley was close to being really good - but in the spring, instead of getting with 2024 and competing for players in the portal, they went ahead and gave a scholarship to walk on Cade Hartke, gave a ride BACK to Goanar Bileuw who had already gone through senior Day, and gave a scholarship to D2 transfers Connor DIllon because he's from Peoria. All three of those guys were DNP yesterday.

It was just a chickenshit way of doing things and it is why you have lost your only two REAL games on the schedule thus far.


There's exactly one program in this league that schedules like they give a s*** and then this very board gets all pissed when they've got losses in the non-con and then does well once league play hits.

Not calling you out because you don't do it but that's always the overwhelming sentiment here...


100%. And then they all parrot their head coach saying "but no one will play us!!!!"
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Re: MVC Games Week 6 2024-25

Postby TheDrake » December 16th, 2024, 10:35 am

BCPanther wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:Bradley isn't a big boy program.

Still probably good enough to win the MVC but this isn't a "special" team like a lot of people thought/hoped. The Valley as a whole isn't close to the WCC. On many levels.

Please look at the Santa Clara and San Francisco schedules. Then when you want to repeat a coach line that "no one will play us" - stop talking. The games are there for teams and coaches that are willing to play them and seek them out.

It's one of many reasons why Bradley and the MVC are what they are.

Bradley was close to being really good - but in the spring, instead of getting with 2024 and competing for players in the portal, they went ahead and gave a scholarship to walk on Cade Hartke, gave a ride BACK to Goanar Bileuw who had already gone through senior Day, and gave a scholarship to D2 transfers Connor DIllon because he's from Peoria. All three of those guys were DNP yesterday.

It was just a chickenshit way of doing things and it is why you have lost your only two REAL games on the schedule thus far.


There's exactly one program in this league that schedules like they give a s*** and then this very board gets all pissed when they've got losses in the non-con and then does well once league play hits.

Not calling you out because you don't do it but that's always the overwhelming sentiment here...


Drake is about to play its 3rd power conference opponent of the non-con slate. How many has UNI played?
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Re: MVC Games Week 6 2024-25

Postby BCPanther » December 16th, 2024, 11:41 am

TheDrake wrote:
BCPanther wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:Bradley isn't a big boy program.

Still probably good enough to win the MVC but this isn't a "special" team like a lot of people thought/hoped. The Valley as a whole isn't close to the WCC. On many levels.

Please look at the Santa Clara and San Francisco schedules. Then when you want to repeat a coach line that "no one will play us" - stop talking. The games are there for teams and coaches that are willing to play them and seek them out.

It's one of many reasons why Bradley and the MVC are what they are.

Bradley was close to being really good - but in the spring, instead of getting with 2024 and competing for players in the portal, they went ahead and gave a scholarship to walk on Cade Hartke, gave a ride BACK to Goanar Bileuw who had already gone through senior Day, and gave a scholarship to D2 transfers Connor DIllon because he's from Peoria. All three of those guys were DNP yesterday.

It was just a chickenshit way of doing things and it is why you have lost your only two REAL games on the schedule thus far.


There's exactly one program in this league that schedules like they give a s*** and then this very board gets all pissed when they've got losses in the non-con and then does well once league play hits.

Not calling you out because you don't do it but that's always the overwhelming sentiment here...


Drake is about to play its 3rd power conference opponent of the non-con slate. How many has UNI played?


UNI has played 4 Q1/Q2 games. Drake (and Bradley) have played 2. All 3 will add one more (UNI-Wazzu Neutral, Drake-KState Neutral, San Francisco at Bradley)

I'm glad Drake has played teams with fancy patches on the front of their uniforms.
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Re: MVC Games Week 6 2024-25

Postby TheDrake » December 16th, 2024, 11:58 am

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UNI has played 4 Q1/Q2 games. Drake (and Bradley) have played 2. All 3 will add one more (UNI-Wazzu Neutral, Drake-KState Neutral, San Francisco at Bradley)

I'm glad Drake has played teams with fancy patches on the front of their uniforms.[/quote]

Yeah, playing and beating power conference opponents holds no value for valley schools in today’s NCAA system. And those wins definitely don’t gain more and more NET value as they enter the echo chamber of p-5 conference play. Just fancy patches. That’s why UNI didn’t schedule any.
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Re: MVC Games Week 6 2024-25

Postby BCPanther » December 16th, 2024, 12:03 pm

TheDrake wrote:


UNI has played 4 Q1/Q2 games. Drake (and Bradley) have played 2. All 3 will add one more (UNI-Wazzu Neutral, Drake-KState Neutral, San Francisco at Bradley)

I'm glad Drake has played teams with fancy patches on the front of their uniforms.[/quote]

Yeah, playing and beating power conference opponents holds no value for valley schools in today’s NCAA system. And those wins definitely don’t gain more and more NET value as they enter the echo chamber of p-5 conference play. Just fancy patches. That’s why UNI didn’t schedule any.[/quote]

UNI DID schedule an ESPN event that had 3 (Florida, Minnesota, WF) but those schools threw a fit because of the strong mid-major field (UNI, North Texas, St Bona, Utah State, Wichita) and ESPN changed it to two 4 team brackets instead of one 8 team field like you played in. Weird that Wichita won the 'completely random' drawing to get to play with the 3 P schools. It's almost like the AAC also has an ESPN contract.

Those games you played will add value but you didn't schedule enough other good games to make it mean anything and I say that hoping Drake has an AL shot come March.
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Re: MVC Games Week 6 2024-25

Postby ColonialBulldog » December 16th, 2024, 2:19 pm

BCPanther wrote:
TheDrake wrote:


UNI has played 4 Q1/Q2 games. Drake (and Bradley) have played 2. All 3 will add one more (UNI-Wazzu Neutral, Drake-KState Neutral, San Francisco at Bradley)

I'm glad Drake has played teams with fancy patches on the front of their uniforms.


Yeah, playing and beating power conference opponents holds no value for valley schools in today’s NCAA system. And those wins definitely don’t gain more and more NET value as they enter the echo chamber of p-5 conference play. Just fancy patches. That’s why UNI didn’t schedule any.[/quote]

UNI DID schedule an ESPN event that had 3 (Florida, Minnesota, WF) but those schools threw a fit because of the strong mid-major field (UNI, North Texas, St Bona, Utah State, Wichita) and ESPN changed it to two 4 team brackets instead of one 8 team field like you played in. Weird that Wichita won the 'completely random' drawing to get to play with the 3 P schools. It's almost like the AAC also has an ESPN contract.
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It sounds like you are saying those power 5 schools refused to play you.

By the way Wake Forest and others did the same exact thing to Drake last year by bailing on their Thanksgiving tournament. But that was probably way different than UNI's scenario and 100% Drake's fault.
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Re: MVC Games Week 6 2024-25

Postby Rollbird5 » December 16th, 2024, 3:34 pm

How bout them Redbirds! Chase Walker looking like a beast down low this year :Cheers:
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