MVC Power Rankings

[sixth ace]

Evansville might reassert themselves, but they have the conferences worst loss…to 1-5 Buffalo! Maybe MSU's loss to Jacksonville is worse, I don't know, but Buffalo lost to 1-3 Princeton and 1-5 Yale. Evansville has wins against Yale, Tennesse Tech, and Western Illinois. Now Northern Iowa and Illinois State haven't exactly beaten any great teams, but they did win the games they were favored to win. Also, they have some semblance of an interior game.

It's reasonable that Evansville might challenge for 4th or better, but please accomplish something before you start whining about being disrespected. Respect is earned.

Are you kidding me?
Evansville has done nothing this year, with or without Ryan, that has led anyone to believe they are going to be a factor, at least at this point. The timing of your crying post is not good. Save it for when you actually do something you're not supposed to do. The home loss to Buffalo was a horrible one. You should have won that game with your second stringers. I'm glad you like the underdog role because you're going to be one for the majority of your games.

Seriously? UE has underperformed during non-conference for the last few years WITH Colt and you think UE is being dismissed. You guys deserve to be dismissed! Beat some worthy teams with or without Colt first and maybe you might be right. Until then, your nonconference record the last few years have dragged the Valley down. You can start w/@Colorado State

Yepp The Aces have had a nonconference with Butler, Indiana & North Carolina the past years so we did suck. We lost 8 games by 17-18 points just last year. Wow this year Colt goes down in the first 7 minutes of a game and the coaching staff doesn't have a game plan ready. Hang the Buffalo loss on Marty's staff.
I'm not sure what ranranked means but it probably was smack talk.
Your Right UE need to beat Colorado State Saturday. They have a game tomorrow against Alabama A&M to go thru first Colt is trying to play tomorrow and see where that goes. I just as soon he wait for Colorado State and take the extra time to heal.
The coaching staff has fixed the no Colt gameplan and it is working We got some young talent some experience.they neeed that The Litheranian is progressing nicely the past few games He's not fouling out in 15 minutes like before Now he being fouled.
December is UE's big test. Colorado State(A),Butler(A),MurrayState(H)&Miami Oh(H). They also have Periennal power house Oakland City and winless Alabama State,both home games. Then right before yearend 12/29 the game I'm waiting on Creighton in Omaha.

Yep December is a important month for the Aces. If UE goes 6-0,not counting OCU, Y'all will still be dismissing UE and talkin about how unfair the Omaha refs were

[Wufan]

You don't get to call 6-0 and claim you will be disrespected. You go 6-0 and get respect.

You don't lose to Buffalo and believe everyone will just forget about it because you beat Tennessee Tech.

I like to read opponents message boards because I like to get a different perspective on the teams and become familiar with their roster and gameplan. Something I've noticed is that all the team forums, save one, have very active threads about the rest of the MVC schools. My guess is that Aces fans have almost no knowledge of the rest of the league and what they bring to the table and that is why they think they are being "disrespected." If you look around the league you will see that Evansville, with Colt is mediocre to upper mid pack in talent and perennial Thursday nighters without.

Now go beat Butler, CSU and Murry State.

[Aces1982]

I must be mistaken I thought UE was the 3 seed last year w a good portion returning. They lost a game when the best player went out, was it a bad loss? Sure it was. And they lost a road game to a ranked team. We will see where UE ends up. I fully expect to be in the hunt for a top 4 finish. I also will be very surprised and shocked if they beat Colorado St or Butler. Finally, I will say that the 4 teams everyone is speaking about running and hiding from the rest of the league, UE will will at least be 3-5 against them or better.

Time will tell who is right.

[Wufan]

I must be mistaken I thought UE was the 3 seed last year w a good portion returning. They lost a game when the best player went out, was it a bad loss? Sure it was. And they lost a road game to a ranked team. We will see where UE ends up. I fully expect to be in the hunt for a top 4 finish. I also will be very surprised and shocked if they beat Colorado St or Butler. Finally, I will say that the 4 teams everyone is speaking about running and hiding from the rest of the league, UE will will at least be 3-5 against them or better.

Time will tell who is right.

I can actually get behind this post. It's reasonable.

[pafan]

Something I've noticed is that all the team forums, save one, have very active threads about the rest of the MVC schools. My guess is that Aces fans have almost no knowledge of the rest of the league and what they bring to the table and that is why they think they are being "disrespected."

My guess is that the average Aces fan is 72 years old and doesn't know what Internets are.

Also, many of the members of the UE fan board are active here (myself, Ace Dad, and sixth ace account for a fifth of the posts there since the season started)

[Aces1982]

You don't get to call 6-0 and claim you will be disrespected. You go 6-0 and get respect.

You don't lose to Buffalo and believe everyone will just forget about it because you beat Tennessee Tech.

I like to read opponents message boards because I like to get a different perspective on the teams and become familiar with their roster and gameplan. Something I've noticed is that all the team forums, save one, have very active threads about the rest of the MVC schools. My guess is that Aces fans have almost no knowledge of the rest of the league and what they bring to the table and that is why they think they are being "disrespected." If you look around the league you will see that Evansville, with Colt is mediocre to upper mid pack in talent and perennial Thursday nighters without.

Now go beat Butler, CSU and Murry State.

Seems kind of arrogant saying that UE fans don't know what the rest of the Valley has to offer. We do have TV in Southern Indiana and internet where we can read and watch what is going on around the world. Just because UE may have a smaller fanbase doesn't mean we are not as knowledgable as other fanbases in the MVC.

[Wufan]

You and sixth claimed that the Aces were being disrespected for no reason. I looked at your record and the rest of the Valleys and I assumed ignorance or arrogance. You tell me.

[Aces1982]

I love how everyone has dismissed UE. Not only in this thread but others as well, talkng about seperation between Creighton, Wichita, ISU and UNI. UE lost to a ranked team on the road by single digits. Then got beat at home in a game they should have won but was dealing with Colt being out. They have won 3 games since, all without Colt. Once he comes back there will be lots of surprised folks watching UE challenging for one of the top 4 spots. In the meantime, please keep dismissing UE. Being the underdog is much more enjoyable.

I appreciate your optimism, I really do. Fans should be optimistic. That being said, those that are "dismissing" UE have a different perspective than that of an Aces fan. In many ways, those outside the fandom may have a clearer vision, then again, maybe not. Time will tell.

I will give you an outsiders perspective. The Aces played a rankeranked team to start the season (ND). While they didn't get embarrassed, like it or not, they weren't just beat, but a little outclassed as well. I know, I watched the game and was rooting for the Aces. Since then, they have played nobody. With or without Colt Ryan, Evansville should have beaten Buffalo easily. They lost. The Aces looked weak against Western Illinois as well. In fact, there is nothing that the Aces have done without Colt that would lend many people to say he is going to make everything better.
With that, Aces fans should expect the "dismissing" that is going on. In fact, if you replaced Colt Ryan's name with the moniker "Player A" and substituted the team name Evansville with "Team X" you would probably do some "dismissing" of your own.

I think this statement couldn't be further from the truth. Without Colt they have won 3 games, one on the road. More players are scoring, rebounding and handling the ball. They are growing as a team. They are learning to win w/o Colt. They are all getting some confidence that they can do some things when Colt is not in the game.

[shoxrox]

Where did this guy come from?
It has to be that he had a dream that Evansville actually did something noteworthy and beat Indiana or somebody and then just logged on here with his brain forgetting to tell him that he's actually awake now.

[MVCfans]

Here is my updated list. Creighton and Wichita State remain undefeated so they're the top 2. After that, it's quite a guess.

link: MVC Power Rankings - November 25