Conference Realignment - May 1

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Postby Haha » November 30th, 2012, 7:04 am

shoxrox wrote:I remember back in 1995 when the WAC was formed.


The WAC formed in the early 60's.
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Postby shocktheheart » November 30th, 2012, 12:53 pm

Would the Valley look at taking NMSU if they join the Sun Belt for football only? With the way CUSA is going, I would hope we look at taking one of there schools who will join the Big East for football only.

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Re: Conference Realignment - May 1

Postby MSUDuo » November 30th, 2012, 9:09 pm

shocktheheart wrote:Would the Valley look at taking NMSU if they join the Sun Belt for football only? With the way CUSA is going, I would hope we look at taking one of there schools who will join the Big East for football only.

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I can't imagine. They aren't just outside the MVC footprint, they are light years away from it...
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Re: Conference Realignment - May 1

Postby TheAsianSensation » December 3rd, 2012, 6:28 pm

It's inconsequential to us, but he MAAC just announced they're poaching members from the NEC today.

According to my count/records (correct me if I'm wrong), but here is a complete list of conferences who have not changed their basketball membership since January 1, 2010:

SWAC
Ivy League
Missouri Valley

That's it, folks.

edit: and the MAC, but they've been making changes in the football only membership
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Re: Conference Realignment - May 1

Postby gtmoBlue » December 5th, 2012, 9:58 am

The Big East is without a TV contract and allowed their renegotiation window with ESPN to lapse. They are bringing in Mid-major schools by the ton in an attempt to stop the hemorraging from losing their top tier football schools. Welcome Big East fans...to the world of the Mid-majors.

The BE basketball 7 have a window of opportunity until next July to opt out and form a new league. However, they are stuck...hooked on the paltry $1.3M in TV revenues they had formerly received. They are collectively plugging a leaky dam with all their fingers and toes...to no avail. The next BE contract will be a midmajor contract as no marquee football schools remain. The basketball 7 are blindly hoping and praying for miracles that are not forthcoming (God helps those who help themselves).

Commish Elgin should reach out to help the Big East. Offer a life raft to Cincy, Marquette and DePaul. Offer to accept them, along with St Louis (A-10) to form a 14 team MVC. Cincy can market their football to whomever will take them. If Cincy gets a Big-10/ACC offer, then offer Dayton as the 4th team.

Time to expand the MVC.
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Re: Conference Realignment - May 1

Postby BCPanther » December 5th, 2012, 10:44 am

Chicago State is joining the WAC.

That league is officially a disaster...
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Re: Conference Realignment - May 1

Postby Khan4Cats » December 5th, 2012, 11:14 am

BCPanther wrote:Chicago State is joining the WAC.

That league is officially a disaster...


Won't be long before they call the University of Phoenix and Western Governor's College....
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Re: Conference Realignment - May 1

Postby Drakey » December 5th, 2012, 5:20 pm

gtmoBlue wrote:The Big East is without a TV contract and allowed their renegotiation window with ESPN to lapse. They are bringing in Mid-major schools by the ton in an attempt to stop the hemorraging from losing their top tier football schools. Welcome Big East fans...to the world of the Mid-majors.

The BE basketball 7 have a window of opportunity until next July to opt out and form a new league. However, they are stuck...hooked on the paltry $1.3M in TV revenues they had formerly received. They are collectively plugging a leaky dam with all their fingers and toes...to no avail. The next BE contract will be a midmajor contract as no marquee football schools remain. The basketball 7 are blindly hoping and praying for miracles that are not forthcoming (God helps those who help themselves).

Commish Elgin should reach out to help the Big East. Offer a life raft to Cincy, Marquette and DePaul. Offer to accept them, along with St Louis (A-10) to form a 14 team MVC. Cincy can market their football to whomever will take them. If Cincy gets a Big-10/ACC offer, then offer Dayton as the 4th team.

Time to expand the MVC.


Like that idea, except cincinatti is not realistic with their football aspirations. I'd just go for Dayton at the start. I think this would truly make a better conference for everyone involved.
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Re: Conference Realignment - May 1

Postby Red » December 7th, 2012, 12:05 pm

Here's a good article quoting Elgin on possible MVC expansion.

The Valley reportedly distributes roughly $300,000 to each member school in television payouts. The big money-maker for the league is NCAA tourney units; Elgin says those chunks account for 75-80 percent of the league's annual revenue. So while BCS conferences such as the Big Ten are targeting specific television markets as opposed to schools, a mid-major circuit such as the Valley would be looking at men's basketball programs in the Plains and the Great Lakes with a track record of consistent Big Dance berths.

Elgin won't divulge hypothetical targets, but the logical candidates are obvious: Former MVC members such as Butler, Tulsa and Saint Louis would figure to sit atop the wish list, while names such as Milwaukee, Denver, Loyola (Ill.), Wright State, North Dakota State and Nebraska-Omaha have also been kicked around by league administrators.

"I'm opposed to expansion unless the institutions were able to strengthen our league," Elgin says. "We don't need numbers. We need strength.

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Re: Conference Realignment - May 1

Postby valleychamp » December 7th, 2012, 12:30 pm

Elgin basically echoes what I have been trying to say to all you expansion nerds these last two years--a) media markets (!) hardly matter to leagues like the MVC, they are only important to the B10's of the world vying for those huge TV contracts which we don't have and never will have, And b) expansion (!) for the sake of expansion is silly--if we bring someone in, it has to be a good program that has a chance to bring NCAA money in.
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