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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby Bball Junkie » December 18th, 2012, 1:40 pm

It is funny that the SLU/UE comparison came up. When they played together in the MCC along with Dayton, Butler, Xavier, Detroit, Loyola, Marquette (for a few years), etc SLU never won the conference. UE has played SLU 29 times in their histories....UE has won 14, SLU has won 15 of those games.
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Postby Jet915 » December 18th, 2012, 1:52 pm

SLU is a perennial bad team. I think 1 NCAA tournament in last 10 years. The only reason they are in the discussion is the St. Louis market which is funny cause Illinois and Mizzou seem to be ahead of them when it comes to viewership in that market.
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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby thefish7 » December 18th, 2012, 3:07 pm

Snaggletooth wrote:I think VCU talk is just from people who want to blow a lot of hot air and give themselves more to talk about.

A article I read that this is not as much about $$$, but these schools saw it as a bigger opportunity to reunite schools with common goals and getting back on mission and non-secular schools need not apply. Which if it is true would be breath of fresh air in a time where college athletic landscape is just being ruined by greed and all traditions are being destroyed.

In the interview they said their core identity was going to lie with the Catholicism but they were not going completely overboard with that identity because it could harm recruiting non-catholic students and possible expansion to schools that fit their profile. They said they ultimately want "reconnect their sports programs to their missions, and reinvigorate their religious identities at time when important groups on campus fear it is slipping away".

They said they would seek certain non-denominational schools that fit their profile of being committed to top-tier competition, are "attractive media entities" and "care about the holistic development of their student athletes". They felt felt Butler was one of those type of schools.

They also said 5 of the 7 schools are lead by Priests or the Catholic Church and they would like to put a "mission-related stamp" on the conference. They in fact were looking to the model of the the ivy league where no athletic scholarships are given, only awards for financial need. Also, games would only be played on the weekends. They would like to establish public service requirements and high ethical requirements for their students. They thought Butler might embrace these initiatives.

The other schools they listed in this article for joining this league were: Gonzaga, st. Marys (but admitted geography would be a issue for these two schools), Dayton, Xavier and St. Bonaventure.



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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby C0|db|00ded » December 18th, 2012, 4:08 pm

Oh the Vatican 7 definitely put their "mission stamp" on the entire deal when they pulled out of the Big East because they had to share "their" revenue with a couple of "heretical" programs. That mission stamp was this:

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Their vanity, greed, and outright selfishness, makes Jesus cry.


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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby Snaggletooth » December 18th, 2012, 4:47 pm

thefish7 wrote:
Snaggletooth wrote:I think VCU talk is just from people who want to blow a lot of hot air and give themselves more to talk about.

A article I read that this is not as much about $$$, but these schools saw it as a bigger opportunity to reunite schools with common goals and getting back on mission and non-secular schools need not apply. Which if it is true would be breath of fresh air in a time where college athletic landscape is just being ruined by greed and all traditions are being destroyed.

In the interview they said their core identity was going to lie with the Catholicism but they were not going completely overboard with that identity because it could harm recruiting non-catholic students and possible expansion to schools that fit their profile. They said they ultimately want "reconnect their sports programs to their missions, and reinvigorate their religious identities at time when important groups on campus fear it is slipping away".

They said they would seek certain non-denominational schools that fit their profile of being committed to top-tier competition, are "attractive media entities" and "care about the holistic development of their student athletes". They felt felt Butler was one of those type of schools.

They also said 5 of the 7 schools are lead by Priests or the Catholic Church and they would like to put a "mission-related stamp" on the conference. They in fact were looking to the model of the the ivy league where no athletic scholarships are given, only awards for financial need. Also, games would only be played on the weekends. They would like to establish public service requirements and high ethical requirements for their students. They thought Butler might embrace these initiatives.

The other schools they listed in this article for joining this league were: Gonzaga, st. Marys (but admitted geography would be a issue for these two schools), Dayton, Xavier and St. Bonaventure.



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No I don't have a link, It was in the newspaper, story by the AP.
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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby ihsi » December 19th, 2012, 10:07 am

While there would be some obvious benefits to joining, I don't think CU gets invited. Not yet at least.
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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby thefish7 » December 19th, 2012, 10:18 am

Snaggletooth wrote:No I don't have a link, It was in the newspaper, story by the AP.


Which paper? Not doubting you, I'd just like to try to find and read the article.
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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby MVCfans » February 21st, 2013, 3:27 pm

Who knows what to believe any more. After a report a couple of days ago by John Feinstein in the Washington Post saying that Creighton was too far west for the Catholic 7 schools, here is a report that says Creighton and Richmond are being debated as the 10th and final team for inclusion:

According to sources familiar with the talks now being held among the Catholic 7, the group will initially focus on a 10 team conference, which would mean invitations to Butler and Xavier of the Atlantic 10. An internal tug of war over the 10th team is being waged with Marquette leading a charge to include Creighton, while Georgetown and the Eastern Catholic schools are focusing on Richmond of the Atlantic 10.


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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby squirrel » February 21st, 2013, 3:49 pm

I don't think Jersey Guy has a clue. He was the one saying UConn was going to revolutionize the NCAA with its plan that would be easily and widely embraced :roll:
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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby rlh04d » February 21st, 2013, 7:59 pm

MVCfans wrote:Who knows what to believe any more. After a report a couple of days ago by John Feinstein in the Washington Post saying that Creighton was too far west for the Catholic 7 schools, here is a report that says Creighton and Richmond are being debated as the 10th and final team for inclusion:

According to sources familiar with the talks now being held among the Catholic 7, the group will initially focus on a 10 team conference, which would mean invitations to Butler and Xavier of the Atlantic 10. An internal tug of war over the 10th team is being waged with Marquette leading a charge to include Creighton, while Georgetown and the Eastern Catholic schools are focusing on Richmond of the Atlantic 10.


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Wait ...

That article mentions the Big East will be getting between $20-23 million per year.

For the entire conference to split!?

Holy crap. The Big East turned down an ESPN deal that would have given teams $11 million a year ... and two years later they're now looking at -- depending on how many teams that deal includes, and how the breakup works between full and associate members -- possibly less than $2 million per year per team?

Worst. Decision. Ever.

Pitt and Syracuse joining the ACC added more to the ACC's TV contract than the entire 12-team Big East TV contract is worth.
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