Should Drake and Evansville be encouraged to leave te MVC?

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Re: Should Drake and Evansville be encouraged to leave te MV

Postby agrinut » January 22nd, 2013, 10:58 am

pafan wrote:
getreal4 wrote:Both programs currently lack the financial commitment of mid pack MVC Men's BB programs.


If you were going to vote out the two schools who spend the least on Men's BB, you'd be voting out Missouri State and Indiana State.

Both of these have larger total athletic budgets than Drake and Evansville, likely on account of FCS football.


Nvm ignorance must really be bliss.....
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Postby ACECARD » January 22nd, 2013, 11:51 am

Ali wrote:Certain posters should be encouraged to leave the board.

+1 LOL
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Re: Should Drake and Evansville be encouraged to leave te MV

Postby pafan » January 22nd, 2013, 11:53 am

@DJA: The figures were from a post on this board a couple of months ago:

viewtopic.php?p=48971#p48971

No further citation was provided, but I would be happy to have my so-called ignorance fixed if they are somehow incorrect figures.
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Re: Should Drake and Evansville be encouraged to leave te MV

Postby DoubleJayAlum » January 22nd, 2013, 1:42 pm

pafan wrote:@DJA: The figures were from a post on this board a couple of months ago:

http://mvcfans.com/viewtopic.php?p=48971#p48971

No further citation was provided, but I would be happy to have my so-called ignorance fixed if they are somehow incorrect figures.


4 of the bottom 5 are schools with football (Evansville is the exception).
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Re: Should Drake and Evansville be encouraged to leave te MV

Postby Haha » January 22nd, 2013, 3:25 pm

Here is the latest data from 2011

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/


Wichita State-----------4,644,724-----19,551,408
Creighton---------------4,404,350-----15,062,122
Bradley------------------3,846,345-----12,987,000
Northern Iowa----------2,449,710-----14,632,492
Drake--------------------2,226,291-----12,964,153
Illinois State------------2,183,876-----18,631,777
Evansville---------------2,133,520-----10,043,793
Southern Illinois -------2,063,684-----19,671,796
Missouri State----------1,899,281-----13,605,468
Indiana State-----------1,704,707-----12,394,542
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Re: Should Drake and Evansville be encouraged to leave te MV

Postby Ricardo del Rio » January 22nd, 2013, 3:35 pm

Ricardo del Rio wrote:
BCPanther wrote:Drake has become a boat anchor.

Worst arena in the league, worst fan support in the league, an AD who is obviously incredibly stubborn or simply out of touch. They simply fit much, much better in the Summit League. They would be able to compete with the Western Illinois' of the world. Remember they dropped balloons and confetti when Dr Tom clinched a .500 season.

This is a school that has employed both Rudy Washington and Kurt Kanaskie as their head coach for long periods of time.

You can't even blame Phelps for this. If I was still getting paid, I'd keep showing up too.

Evansville is an interesting case. They play in a nice building, they have a new practice facility. Marty is great on the bench, but doesn't appear to be a great recruiter. Their profile probably fits the Horizon league a bit better, but they aren't killing the league like Drake is.


Fire the female AD and things will get better. There are few female executive managers, who are visionaries. Female managers are process oriented. They love policies and procedures. They love flow charts and task teams. They love QA, JIT and other acronyms. It is just the way they were raised and the dictates of their genes. :D


By the way, female managers love minutiae too.

This post is a liberal trap.
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Re: Should Drake and Evansville be encouraged to leave te MV

Postby Ricardo del Rio » January 22nd, 2013, 3:36 pm

Ali wrote:Certain posters should be encouraged to leave the board.


I certainly agree with you.
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Re: Should Drake and Evansville be encouraged to leave te MV

Postby agrinut » January 22nd, 2013, 9:23 pm

Haha wrote:Here is the latest data from 2011

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/


Wichita State-----------4,644,724-----19,551,408
Creighton---------------4,404,350-----15,062,122
Bradley------------------3,846,345-----12,987,000
Northern Iowa----------2,449,710-----14,632,492
Drake--------------------2,226,291-----12,964,153
Illinois State------------2,183,876-----18,631,777
Evansville---------------2,133,520-----10,043,793
Southern Illinois -------2,063,684-----19,671,796
Missouri State----------1,899,281-----13,605,468
Indiana State-----------1,704,707-----12,394,542



What's the break down on the expenses? Rent, recruiting, salary?
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Re: Should Drake and Evansville be encouraged to leave te MV

Postby UNIFanSince1983 » January 22nd, 2013, 9:35 pm

It really surprises me that we are as high as we are on there.
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Re: Should Drake and Evansville be encouraged to leave te MV

Postby uniftw » January 22nd, 2013, 9:54 pm

FearDaTrees wrote:I think both should stay put. Personally, Ithink we need to add 2 teams like NDSU and SDSU...both play in MVC in football and NDSU has lots of cash and alumni.

HELL FREAKING NO!
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