List your CU replacement

[Shocktop42]

i'd prefer to bring in a team that can compete in the MVC (post CU) than a team than a team that is in a convenient location (i.e. UMKC). Location should be about the last reason why a team should be admitted or not admitted. We would need to rebuild the league and that means that we should take the teams that have the best chance of helping with that over the long term.

[johnnydugouts]

if creighton joins the catholic 7, northern iowa may make an all-sports move to the MAC as a pre-emptive strike. a football-only move is already very much under consideration.

[rjl]

i'd prefer to bring in a team that can compete in the MVC (post CU) than a team than a team that is in a convenient location (i.e. UMKC). Location should be about the last reason why a team should be admitted or not admitted. We would need to rebuild the league and that means that we should take the teams that have the best chance of helping with that over the long term.

But this goes to my point: (1) who are those teams, and (2) how unlikely are they to join the Valley?

Anyone of Creighton's caliber will not be interested in the Valley. Nor would anyone of the caliber of the top half of the remaining Valley teams, I would assume. Why would they? The Valley won't offer them much that they cannot achieve on their own. In other words, running roughshod through the Valley schedule won't get you into the tournament unless you amassed a good non-conference resume, so why not just do it in the conference you're already in.

Rather, we'll be shuffling through the lesser conferences looking for someone who wants to move up. Look at the most recent entrants into the Valley, and then accept the fact that the new entrants won't be that good.

In that case, accept the poison and at least try to pick the flavor.

[TheAsianSensation]

At gunpoint, in a CU loss event, I go for broke. I hold my nose and do the following:

1) New Mexico St
the good: solid basketball pedigree, they are already indy now in football so they can park non-football here
the bad: geography, might be tough to pry them from a reformed WAC that was rebuilt around them

2) Denver
the good: good market, r4easonably competent basketball
the bad: geography again

3) Oral Bob
the good: again, solid basketball pedigree, reasonable geographic fit
the bad: financial concerns, which may or may not be overblown. you don't spend to travel in the Summit...but if you're in the MVC, it's more worth it

The thing with going to 12 teams instead of 10....if you're going to stretch geographically, go to the unbalanced conference schedule. This allows you to rig things just enough to help the small budget teams with travel just enough. You can send an Evansville on a NMSU/Denver road swing once every two years instead of every year, etc etc.

[thefish7]

New Mexico St and Belmont are both interesting choices that I hadn't really thought of. If you take New Mexico State do you end up with someone who's just around a couple of years until they find a football home?

I think I'd go for Belmont, Denver, and either ORU or maybe NDSU (lots of alums and money-- a bit more football balance for the football inclined MVC schools).

[TheAsianSensation]

New Mexico St and Belmont are both interesting choices that I hadn't really thought of. If you take New Mexico State do you end up with someone who's just around a couple of years until they find a football home?

I think I'd go for Belmont, Denver, and either ORU or maybe NDSU (lots of alums and money-- a bit more football balance for the football inclined MVC schools).

It's possible NMSU bolts quickly. But the basketball pedigree is worth gambling on. And besides, entry fees and exit fees. Get that money!

I'm worried about NDSU wanting SDSU as a package deal. Take one Dakota and you may be pot-committed to take them all.

[Someone_Else]

This sounds crazy, but I want Tulsa. Last year ESPN reported they lost 10mil a year playing football. The article said they were happy playing with Rice, SMU, Tulane and the rest of Conference USA, but what if the ACC doesn't get raided and the NBE doesn't feel the need to add Tulsa? I would imagine the new Conference USA would have higher expenses and less revenues leading to greater losses.


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[Ricardo del Rio]

if creighton joins the catholic 7, northern iowa may make an all-sports move to the MAC as a pre-emptive strike. a football-only move is already very much under consideration.

Just cannot get rid of that manhole cover, which is hanging from the neck.

[Ricardo del Rio]

How many of the named teams will want the Valley?

Just wondering.

[jwa123]

if creighton joins the catholic 7, northern iowa may make an all-sports move to the MAC as a pre-emptive strike. a football-only move is already very much under consideration.

Now what makes you think the MAC is just going to open it's arms wide open to UNI when their expansion has been to the east? The move for football only must be only talked about by UNI fans as the MAC is no longer taking football only members and UMass tenure in the league is in doubt if they don't move for all sports not just football. Right now they have a two year gig at the MAC's discretion. Finally, you're athletic budget is too small. The majority of MAC teams out spend UNI 2 to 1 with their athletic budgets.