Creighton @ Wichita State

[mvcfan]

You don't have to agree with me, which you obviously don't, but here's how I'm looking at it...

Rebounds are even.

Hall has the advantage in points 17 to 9.

Greg has the advantage in blocks 5 to 1.

To keep it as simple as possible and avoid going into shot charts, gained/lost possessions and shooting percentage. Hall had 8 more points, and the difference in blocks lead to a CU 'gain' or a WSU 'loss' of 8 points. Fairly similar numbers to me, again you don't have to agree with me but I don't see those being worthy of a claim that no one has an answer for Hall.

Now for something that cannot be measured by statistics. Can Greg E. guard a player like himself as well as someone like McDermott? Can he play both on the perimeter (the 3 ball) and on the low post?

[bluejays89]

Not much to say about the game. I expected a shocker victory and it happened. Was a little surprised that bju was even less athletic than I thought. Shox played horribly on offense and still got the W. I thought bju was an offensive juggernaut? Sure didn't look like it. I was personally more impressed with Evansville. No team in this conference can match the shox athleticism or have an answer for Carl hall, and he's still not 100%.

You're either not very smart or (more likely) trying to bait some Creighton posters but Creighton already beat Evansville by 20 this year, so they are clearly not better.

[SHOXMVC]

Not much to say about the game. I expected a shocker victory and it happened. Was a little surprised that bju was even less athletic than I thought. Shox played horribly on offense and still got the W. I thought bju was an offensive juggernaut? Sure didn't look like it. I was personally more impressed with Evansville. No team in this conference can match the shox athleticism or have an answer for Carl hall, and he's still not 100%.

You're either not very smart or (more likely) trying to bait some Creighton posters but Creighton already beat Evansville by 20 this year, so they are clearly not better.

The IQ chart is apparently a bit out of your reach as well. Your are one of those self appointed analysts who thinks comparative scores hits the nail on the head. You probably predicted a sCUm ass whooping in Omaha last year because the BJ won earlier in the year in Wichita. How did that work out for you Nostradamus?

[jaybydna]

Some of you shocker posters make it real hard for the casual basketball fan to root for you or wish you well. Is that what you want? That is the sole reason I don't cheer for the huskers anymore either. Wonder what other fans (SLU, XU, VCU) think when they come to this board.

And before you admonish me for certain CU posters, I am already on record admonishing them too.

Can't you just take compliments and move onto the next game without baiting other fan bases? You certainly lead the valley in the baiting category.

[WestOmahaBluejay]

Some of you shocker posters make it real hard for the casual basketball fan to root for you or wish you well. Is that what you want? That is the sole reason I don't cheer for the huskers anymore either. Wonder what other fans (SLU, XU, VCU) think when they come to this board.

And before you admonish me for certain CU posters, I am already on record admonishing them too.

Can't you just take compliments and move onto the next game without baiting other fan bases? You certainly lead the valley in the baiting category.

I agree jaybydna... I respect Wichita State and think the success that they are having on the court down there is great for the Valley as a whole. I have met several Shocker fans at past games here in Omaha and in St. Louis, as well as at the MVC Baseball tournament a couple years ago, and they are nothing like "a few" of the Shocker fans that post on this board (just like there are some Bluejay "fans" that need to go away as well). I am not going to let a few rotten eggs on this board ruin my perspective on Shocker Nation. I for one, have added to trip to Koch Arena onto my list of basketball arenas across the country I would like to visit in the near future - perhaps as early as next season.

Now putting all that aside, respectfully, I would love nothing more then to see the Jays stomp WSU on March 2nd!!!

[rjl]

Haven't you guys ever seen Boyz in Da Hood?

The internet poster-on-internet poster verbal violence will probably never stop.

[WhiskeySierraUniform]

Some of you shocker posters make it real hard for the casual basketball fan to root for you or wish you well. Is that what you want? That is the sole reason I don't cheer for the huskers anymore either. Wonder what other fans (SLU, XU, VCU) think when they come to this board.

And before you admonish me for certain CU posters, I am already on record admonishing them too.

Can't you just take compliments and move onto the next game without baiting other fan bases? You certainly lead the valley in the baiting category.

I've never understood the "please like me" mentality. That is for losers, IMO.

[jaybydna]

Some of you shocker posters make it real hard for the casual basketball fan to root for you or wish you well. Is that what you want? That is the sole reason I don't cheer for the huskers anymore either. Wonder what other fans (SLU, XU, VCU) think when they come to this board.

And before you admonish me for certain CU posters, I am already on record admonishing them too.

Can't you just take compliments and move onto the next game without baiting other fan bases? You certainly lead the valley in the baiting category.

I've never understood the "please like me" mentality. That is for losers, IMO.

Well, there you go. Good luck to you.

[DoubleJayAlum]

Some of you shocker posters make it real hard for the casual basketball fan to root for you or wish you well. Is that what you want? That is the sole reason I don't cheer for the huskers anymore either. Wonder what other fans (SLU, XU, VCU) think when they come to this board.

And before you admonish me for certain CU posters, I am already on record admonishing them too.

Can't you just take compliments and move onto the next game without baiting other fan bases? You certainly lead the valley in the baiting category.

I've never understood the "please like me" mentality. That is for losers, IMO.

Yet you complain on here constantly about what others say about WSU, Marshall, etc.

[RoyalShock]

You don't have to agree with me, which you obviously don't, but here's how I'm looking at it...

Rebounds are even.

Hall has the advantage in points 17 to 9.

Greg has the advantage in blocks 5 to 1.

To keep it as simple as possible and avoid going into shot charts, gained/lost possessions and shooting percentage. Hall had 8 more points, and the difference in blocks lead to a CU 'gain' or a WSU 'loss' of 8 points. Fairly similar numbers to me, again you don't have to agree with me but I don't see those being worthy of a claim that no one has an answer for Hall.

I would argue that you can't look at a difference in blocks that way because unless CU came away with the ball after the block, it's no different than deflecting a pass out-of-bounds or back to the opponent. I remember my high school coach saying we would not get credit for a blocked shot unless we got possession of the ball as a result of the block. I know at least two of GE's blocks went out-of-bounds and another was retrieved by a WSU player.