Why the sky is falling attitude

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Re: Why the sky is falling attitude

Postby TylerDurden » November 23rd, 2010, 4:25 pm

jayball wrote:You graphs mean nothing to me. The MVC will never be a perrenial Top 6 conference.

I see how teams are selected. There is no linear trend that proves if the Valley is the #8 conference then we will get more bids that if we are the #10 conference....so who cares. Very few years will the conference be a big help to any team in consideration. The top teams just need to go out and win alot and not drop one to a bad team.

Logic and graphs are irrelavent. It is about whoever the committee decides to invite that year. The only way to get in....is to win.....regardless of what the conference does.

IMO, the margin of help provided by the 5-10th teams in the MVC is very miniscule. If you team wants in they just need to win. Gonzaga just wins, Bulter just wins. Being 10 spots higher in the RPI isn't going to matter if you don't have a marquee win or if you have a bad loss or two. We need our top programs to have better resumes than the top teams in the MWC, WAC, A10, CUSA, and the 6-9th best teams in BCS leagues. We need there very few upsets in the conference tourneys.

I like seeing Valley teams do well, but I'm just not convinced that conference RPI is a big of a factor for who gets bids. I want a good conference, but I've given up on that really mattering to get multiple bids. We could be the 13th rated conference and get 2 in, if we have a really strong team that gets upset in St Louis. We could be the 7th or 8th rated conference and only get one team in. Your team has to schedule right and win and even then you might need some luck to get an at large.

Sorry, I dont' know how to graph that.




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Re: Why the sky is falling attitude

Postby jayball » November 23rd, 2010, 4:42 pm

Happy Turkey Day to you also.

And just to be clear I used to think like you and Snaggle and fret constantly about Conference RPI.

I just don't anymore because as soon as we figure out a way to compete on that metric they find a way to push other metrics to keep us out.

Hopefully the new 68 team tourney will help a vew MVC teams out.

Hopefully they win when they get the chance.
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Re: Why the sky is falling attitude

Postby iSASO » November 24th, 2010, 4:58 pm

The MVC is 1-10 in road games to this point in the season.
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Re: Why the sky is falling attitude

Postby Aargh » November 24th, 2010, 9:35 pm

BU (home) - 56
Eastern Illinois - 63

Eastern Illinois was 1-3 before this game.
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Re: Why the sky is falling attitude

Postby PeKaph » November 24th, 2010, 9:55 pm

With the BU and UE losses tonight, I doubt even WSU will be able to have a reasonable RPI at the end of the season to be at-large eligible. The only good thing is that the conference seems so terrible that WSU or maybe MSU may be able to sneak through with gaudy MVC records. Eastern Illinois? Seriously?

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Re: Why the sky is falling attitude

Postby Aces1982 » November 24th, 2010, 10:28 pm

PeKaph wrote:With the BU and UE losses tonight, I doubt even WSU will be able to have a reasonable RPI at the end of the season to be at-large eligible. The only good thing is that the conference seems so terrible that WSU or maybe MSU may be able to sneak through with gaudy MVC records. Eastern Illinois? Seriously?

Second look at a new commissioner?



Just to set the record straight, UE was not favored in this game.

Why does the commissioner, need to be switched because teams are losing? How about looking at own program and make a coach accountable.
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Re: Why the sky is falling attitude

Postby iSASO » November 24th, 2010, 11:46 pm

UE wasn't favored in a game against Eastern Illinois? Say no more. Pack your suitcase. Don't go away mad, just go away.
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Re: Why the sky is falling attitude

Postby 45otseoj » November 25th, 2010, 12:16 am

iSASO wrote:UE wasn't favored in a game against Eastern Illinois? Say no more. Pack your suitcase. Don't go away mad, just go away.

UE didn't play Eastern Illinois; Bradley did.
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Re: Why the sky is falling attitude

Postby Aargh » November 25th, 2010, 1:56 am

Aces1982 wrote:
PeKaph wrote:With the BU and UE losses tonight, I doubt even WSU will be able to have a reasonable RPI at the end of the season to be at-large eligible. The only good thing is that the conference seems so terrible that WSU or maybe MSU may be able to sneak through with gaudy MVC records. Eastern Illinois? Seriously?

Second look at a new commissioner?



Just to set the record straight, UE was not favored in this game.

Why does the commissioner, need to be switched because teams are losing? How about looking at own program and make a coach accountable.

This is from an Evansville fan?

An Evansville fan is telling the rest of the Valley to look at their programs and coaches and make them accountable?

I guess Evansville is just now catching up with where the rest of the world was in the late '60's and LSD has finally made its way to southern Indiana.
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Re: Why the sky is falling attitude

Postby Aces1982 » November 25th, 2010, 9:26 am

iSASO wrote:UE wasn't favored in a game against Eastern Illinois? Say no more. Pack your suitcase. Don't go away mad, just go away.


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