[quote="rlh04d"][quote="Jet915"]Apparently, you don't follow your own advice and like to mischaracterize yourself. Creighton's entire lower bowl is sold out and the cheapest tickets range from 320 and 710 dollars a seat and that DOES NOT include the required Jaybacker donation for that seat which ranges from a few hundred to several thousand per seat. The Jaybacker donations exceeded 3.3 million two years ago. The 200 dollars is for upper bowl non-mezzanine seats only which is only a fraction of the seats at CLink and the only ones available as all other seats are SOLD OUT.
Wichita State season tickets range from 275-330 dollars. So you continually mischaracterize Creighton's "cheap" tickets, yet on average, Creighton's season tickets are more expensive. You still say that if Wichita's tickets were as cheap as Creighton's, they'd sell more tickets.....BS.
[url]http://www.gocreighton.com/fls/1000/pdf/12_13mbbnonrenewalbrochure.pdf?SPSID=92271&SPID=86&DB_OEM_ID=1000[/url]
[url]http://www.nmnathletics.com/fls/7500/Ticket%20Prices12-13.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=7500[/url][/quote]
So you claim that I'm mischaracterizing Creighton's ticket prices by including the donations for Creighton ... and then you cite Wichita State's ticket prices minus SASO donations? Are you drunk?
I was comparing like-tickets -- Creighton had their season tickets listed on their website as $200-$300. WSU had tickets listed on their site for much more. I was willing to just leave it at that. If you're going to want to get into that much, though, including those numbers for Creighton and then pretending like WSU doesn't have a required SASO donation is beyond dishonest.
Based on your PDF you linked, it appears you can get front row tickets for Creighton games for about $810. In the mid-court sections of the arena at WSU, a single season ticket would cost $3355 ($330 per seat, $3025 SASO donation). I'm not sure how much the front row tickets go for at WSU. Now, admittedly, just giving that number WOULD be being deliberately deceptive, because at that level you can buy up to four tickets -- which I believe means the tickets could be as cheap as $1086 ($3025 SASO + $330 x4 tickets). Comparable tickets for Creighton -- $540 ($430 ticket + $110 donation).
As for the upper bowl non-mezzanine seats being only a fraction of your seats ... yes, I suppose they are. Anything less than one would technically be a fraction. Generally when someone uses that phrase, though, they intend to claim that something is such a small fraction that it's rather irrelevant. My impression is that those upper levels account for 9,000 seats, which would be about 1/2 of the arena. That appears to be relatively backed up by this image:
http://www.centurylinkcenteromaha.com/L ... .sflb.ashxHere's the breakdown: Season tickets at Creighton in the nosebleeds cost $200 -- Jaybacker donation is not required. At Wichita State in the nosebleeds, that would be $275, plus a minimum $325 SASO donation, or $600 total. That would be three times as much -- however that donation gives you access to two tickets, which could make them as cheap as $438. And while the entire upper bowl of Century Link appears to fall under this "nosebleed" category for Creighton, WSU's "nosebleed" category is a SIGNIFICANTLY smaller fraction of the total seats available, as you can see from the link I'm including at the end of this.
As for your point about Jaybacker donations amounting to $3.3 million two years ago ... SASO donations amounted to more than $3 million in 2007. That's six years ago. And SASO donations have gone up just about every year since then, and that's WELL before a FInal Four run.
http://www.wichita.edu/2007annualreport ... pport+TypeAre we done now?
Yet again, my point was never anything negative about Creighton. Creighton has a massive fanbase. I never argued that if Creighton charged the same amount as WSU they wouldn't be able to draw more fans, or that WSU would be able to draw the same amount of fans if they charged what Creighton did and had a similar size arena. My point was only that if you charge more for a given good, less people buy it, and if you charge less, more people buy it. YET AGAIN, this is common sense supply/demand economics. This has nothing to do with Creighton, other than pointing out that simply comparing average attendances without considering the financial figures only gives you a fraction of the true story.
http://www.nmnathletics.com/fls/7500/Ti ... EM_ID=7500http://www.wsusaso.com/wp-content/uploa ... _Final.pdf[/quote]
[quote="rlh04d"]I'm not sure how much the front row tickets go for at WSU. [/quote]
Front row seats at WSU go for $24,000.00 a pair (must be purchased in pairs). Club BJ could only dream about making the kind of money through ticket sales/donations that WSU makes. Club BJ has to give away tons of tickets a year to keep the attendance numbers up. The BJ gets no concessions/advertising revenue in their rented facility so the big winner is Omaha.
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