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Re: WSU next year

Postby CBB_Fan » May 25th, 2013, 9:25 pm

I think the biggest change won't be WSU, which probably will relatively similar to last year, but the rest of the Valley. We replace Creighton with a team that probably will finish in the 7-8 range next year, and many teams lose their best players. Evansville minus Colt Ryan, Illinois State minus Charmichael and Brown, etc.

The Valley as a whole will probably be down. Indiana State should be a better version of their 2012-2013 team, with few line-up changes, though the consistency problems remain. Aside from them and Wichita State, every team in the upper half of the Valley is going to be down, and Bradley and MSU will have to improve significantly to be a factor in the Valley title race.

That means the gap between 1 and 2 will be a lot bigger than it was this year, where Illinois State, UNI, Evansville, and Indiana State were all competitive with Creighton and Wichita State. Would not surprise me to see a lot of teams at 9-9 or 8-10 with the two top teams closer to 13-3 and 14-2.
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Re: WSU next year

Postby AndShock » May 25th, 2013, 9:33 pm

Wichita State will have the first and second best teams in the Valley next year. You can save this quote.
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Re: WSU next year

Postby agrinut » May 25th, 2013, 9:59 pm

AndShock wrote:Wichita State will have the first and second best teams in the Valley next year. You can save this quote.



No need, we hear it every year. Hopefully your team is up for all the hype. Last year they were considered over achievers, what happens when they have a target.
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Re: WSU next year

Postby shoxrox » May 25th, 2013, 10:03 pm

agrinut wrote:No need, we hear it every year. Hopefully your team is up for all the hype. Last year they were considered over achievers, what happens when they have a target.


Are they backing it up?

As long as we don't lose to Alabama A&M, I'll call our season a success.
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Re: WSU next year

Postby 2livewu » May 25th, 2013, 10:12 pm

Comments from the peanut gallery regarding question marks at WSU are little more than asinine laced jealousy.

There is no logical reason to expect any team outside of ISUB to compete successfully over 18 games.

Talk of a competitive league and "questions marks" for WSU are simply hopeful wishes on behalf of fans of lesser programs. That's not intended to be insulting. There just isn't a team anywhere in the Valley that has fewer question marks than WSU other than ISUB.

MSU? I've seen Addo and Coleby both in person. You're delusional if you think the 2 are anywhere near the same. There's no chance Gully isn't full speed? None? And losing Downing....yeah, that's nothing. Plus, your team really wasn't that good in the first place.

UNI? Lost 3 three year starters that only logged about 3200 minutes between them. 3 players that took the most shots on the team. I have no doubt Max Martino et al are ready to play 32 minutes a game of lock down D in the Valley.

ISUR? Please.

Drake? Pretty please.

SIU? With sugar on top.

Loyola? Ramblin, ramblin, ramblin, ramblin guy..............

Bradley and Evansville are intriguing. Bradley is certainly trending up and the Aces, while they lost a ton, have some size and pieces that make them intriguing to say the least.

Bottom line: The games have to be played and until then, every team and their fans have the right to see the upside in their guys. Could WSU crash and burn like 2007? Sure...it's possible but wishing for it and logically arguing why it might happen are 2 entirely different things.
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Re: WSU next year

Postby glm38 » May 25th, 2013, 10:34 pm

AndShock wrote:Wichita State will have the first and second best teams in the Valley next year. You can save this quote.


If that's the case then we'll expect WSU to completely run away from the rest of the league.
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Re: WSU next year

Postby glm38 » May 25th, 2013, 10:42 pm

shoxrox wrote:
agrinut wrote:No need, we hear it every year. Hopefully your team is up for all the hype. Last year they were considered over achievers, what happens when they have a target.


Are they backing it up?

As long as we don't lose to Alabama A&M, I'll call our season a success.


Is that the same Bears team that was among the youngest in the country but was somehow pretty competitive with WSU (in one of your best years ever) 2 out of the 3 head to head games?

WSU has a few embarrassing losses in their past too. All teams do.
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Re: WSU next year

Postby shoxrox » May 25th, 2013, 10:53 pm

glm38 wrote:Is that the same Bears team that was among the youngest in the country but was somehow pretty competitive with WSU (in one of your best years ever) 2 out of the 3 head to head games?

WSU has a few embarrassing losses in their past too. All teams do.


What were the end results in those games? Congrats on the moral victories I guess?

WSU certainly has nothing remotely close to a loss to a SWAC team. That's elite company.


Look, this was all started by an insecure Bear fan who couldn't help himself but open up a topic dedicated to WSU and tried to crash the party. When you go to FINAL FOURS (and no I'm not talking about the CIT Final Four), your room for talk quickly opens. WSU has now backed up their talking. They don't have to prove anybody what their worth is. It's now up to everyone else to prove if they aren't. It's as simple as that. And once again, going to the Final Four gives you the right to expect pretty high things. Not bragging, just saying it like it is. I'm sure you and your fans would be doing the same thing. The first order of business would probably be making the dance though for that.

Again, a Bear fan couldn't take the WSU talk and now we have veered to where we are.
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Re: WSU next year

Postby glm38 » May 25th, 2013, 11:26 pm

For as young and inexperienced as the Bears were last year I'll take the moral victories against a final 4 team. Of course I would MUCH rather have had your season.....

I loved what WSU did last year. Shox fans have a right to be proud and ecstatic regarding the coming year. Some of it is just a little over the top though. The Valley has generally always been a very competitive league and most of us expect that to continue.
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Re: WSU next year

Postby IllinoisState » May 26th, 2013, 4:51 am

glm38 wrote:
AndShock wrote:Wichita State will have the first and second best teams in the Valley next year. You can save this quote.


If that's the case then we'll expect WSU to completely run away from the rest of the league.
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It makes them feel better.
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