Poaching in NCAA Basketball - Hinson speaks

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Re: Poaching in NCAA Basketball - Hinson speaks

Postby mvcfan » June 23rd, 2013, 10:59 pm

Aargh wrote:I have to wonder whether "coaching poaching" isn't as big a problem.
I would like to see a legal precedent where a school hiring a successful coach from another school has to pay the rest of that coaches contract to the school losing the coach.


You're exactly right that coach poaching is a big problem. However, your solution only works if the hiring school writes the penalty into the coaches contract and most schools don't want the coach of their choice to say no, thus usually they don't stipulate this in the contract. I'm just glad that we don't have a coach that is easily poached.
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Re: Poaching in NCAA Basketball - Hinson speaks

Postby m-v-c » June 24th, 2013, 8:21 pm

CaseyGarrisonforPrez wrote:Barry is a great spokesperson for the Valley but I don't really agree with him on this one. If a coach can leave and go to another school at any point, why can't a student-athlete? I get the loyalty side of the coin, but it seems like you are placing a talented youngster in a holding cell. It stinks to lose kids. Sure. But I've always been a big propent of letting somebody leave if they don't want to be somewhere.

Coaches need to do a better job of continuing to sell their program. There was talk of Weems leaving Missouri State to go to a school like Kansas or Kansas State for his final year of eligibilty. He didn't fortunately but if he had I would not have harbored ill will towards him. It's a free country.


Good for Barry speaking up on this one, he's exactly right. The poaching needs to stop. It's incredible what slimeballs college coaches have become.

The comparison of coaches leaving to players leaving has never been similar, and don't understand why it comes up so much. For one, not nearly as many head coaches jump jobs as are fired or resign under pressure. It's a myth that every coach in the country is jumping around for better jobs. In the MVC, Marshall & Ford are the only head coaches who left one D-I school for an MVC head job. The rest moved up from assistant positions or D-II head jobs (Simmons at Evansville). Nothing wrong with moving jobs for a substantial pay raise. And only 3 current MVC head coaches replaced coaches who had jumped to a "better" job (4 if one wants to call SMU asst. better than ISU head coach). The rest all replaced coaches who were forced out or made lateral moves under pressure.

For another, coaches are paid to work jobs. College athletes are supposed to be in school for an education (insert sarcasm here, but it's still the truth). Pretty sure nobody thinks it's a good idea that a student jumps around from one school to another. Given that, there's no reason why the NCAA should loosen up rules to encourage it. The grad student rule has been very clearly abused by college athletes and should be gone, and any kid who transfers should sit out a year no matter the circumstances. Is it perfectly fair? No. Coaches should exercise their authority in a better way. But that's life. Free country doesn't mean everyone is allowed to do every single thing they want without consequence.
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