#8 WSU vs. UNI

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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby pafan » January 5th, 2014, 3:36 pm

PantherSigEp wrote:The post definitely needs some help which is why it's exciting that we're only losing Rank (who isn't really a post player) and get another Koch and a good post player in Klint Carlson. Obviously it'd be nice to have more experience for Tuttle and Mitchell's senior years, but it's better than basically having Tuttle and Buss as our current post options.

Another Koch? Is that 4?
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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby Ricardo del Rio » January 5th, 2014, 3:53 pm

valleychamp wrote:UNI only shot 30%, gave up a bunch of offensive boards, and missed a bunch of FTs.

Fortunate to have it at single digits at halftime.


The Panther team that showed up today was not a normal Panther team. In past years, the Cats would never have 11 turnovers and 18 personal fouls.

Plus the Cats would never have gone 5-24 from three.

Just another little observation - Tuttle's 3 ball attempts are not going to make the Valley forget about Prince Korver. The stat sheet showed only one attempt. He had another attempt that was close enough to the three line. Both shots were butt ugly. Not even close.
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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby PantherSigEp » January 5th, 2014, 3:57 pm

pafan wrote:
PantherSigEp wrote:The post definitely needs some help which is why it's exciting that we're only losing Rank (who isn't really a post player) and get another Koch and a good post player in Klint Carlson. Obviously it'd be nice to have more experience for Tuttle and Mitchell's senior years, but it's better than basically having Tuttle and Buss as our current post options.

Another Koch? Is that 4?


3rd. He is redshirting this year and will be able to play next year.
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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby 2livewu » January 5th, 2014, 4:33 pm

Mitchell was fantastic today. I thought he didn't shoot enough.

Tuttle continues to be one of the most overrated players in the league but part of that is scouting, and the WSU coaches scout as well as any group around. The big guy was a non-factor and he's the only post player UNI has....Buss is just a big shooter.

WSU just wore the Panthers down. Ben tried a lot of Singleton and Morgan because he needed athleticism but they both struggled with the intensity of the game.

Thought both teams got away with a lot of contact. It's got to suck to be a player these days, not knowing if it's going to be called old rules or new rules.

Someone said Cle was great...no. Average at best...had all 4 turnovers (of the scholarship players) and didn't make anyone better. Fred however was incredible.

The key, which too many overlook, is defense. WSU is simply a much better defensive team than UNI and that's unlikely to change anytime soon.

I know Panther fans are going to lament their shooting % but you can blame (or credit) the WSU D for that a lot more than missing shots. WSU challenges shots as well as anyone around.

Baker and Van Vleet are extraordinarily special competitors.
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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby Black » January 5th, 2014, 5:16 pm

PantherSigEp wrote:
Play Angry wrote:Shockers stretch the lead to 20 before the mop up crew allows 6 straight Panther points to end it, 67-53 final.


6 straight points to the Panthers mop up crew. Both teams pulled the starters about the same time.


I wasn't too thrilled with the last score of the game for UNI either.



Panthers are gritty but they lacked a lot of offensive flow. Tuttle looked lost and, at times, was the worst player on the floor IMO. UNI must be a completely different at home because what I saw today was not that impressive. I don't mean to be harsh or mean, it's just that's what I took from it. UNI will be a tough out at home as always.

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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby mvcfan » January 5th, 2014, 6:56 pm

Carter has been real good the past 3-4 games. He sucked today.
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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby bleach » January 5th, 2014, 7:35 pm

Lufile was as good as i've ever seen him.
Tuttle looked like a lost Frosh.
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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby FearDaTrees » January 5th, 2014, 7:57 pm

Man, I want you guys to be undefeated so bad when you get to the Hulman Center. A sellout crowd and 2nd place team shall await you.
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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby valleychamp » January 5th, 2014, 8:01 pm

2livewu wrote:Mitchell was fantastic today. I thought he didn't shoot enough.

Tuttle continues to be one of the most overrated players in the league but part of that is scouting, and the WSU coaches scout as well as any group around. The big guy was a non-factor and he's the only post player UNI has....Buss is just a big shooter.

WSU just wore the Panthers down. Ben tried a lot of Singleton and Morgan because he needed athleticism but they both struggled with the intensity of the game.

Thought both teams got away with a lot of contact. It's got to suck to be a player these days, not knowing if it's going to be called old rules or new rules.

Someone said Cle was great...no. Average at best...had all 4 turnovers (of the scholarship players) and didn't make anyone better. Fred however was incredible.

The key, which too many overlook, is defense. WSU is simply a much better defensive team than UNI and that's unlikely to change anytime soon.

I know Panther fans are going to lament their shooting % but you can blame (or credit) the WSU D for that a lot more than missing shots. WSU challenges shots as well as anyone around.

Baker and Van Vleet are extraordinarily special competitors.


Tuttle is not overrated. He is often over matched against big or athletic teams because UNI has no other big men, and teams are able to pile on him in the paint because he is our only option. He is really good when he is playing power forward or is paired with another competent big, of which UNI has neither. As a complementary player, he is great. Being the primary focus of most teams defense, he still leads the league in rebounding and averages 14 PPG.

Using Singleton and Morgan was not something different. Morgan has been a top 7 rotation guy all year long, and Singleton has gotten significant minutes ever since the VCU game. Jake has settled into this rotation the last 5-6 games.

A good number of the shots UNI missed tonight (mostly from 3) were very good or wide open looks. It has been one of the main issues this year, we just aren't making shots. Making 3's has been a big part of our offense for a long time, and the fact is that we just aren't that good of a shooting team right now and its killing us in these road games.
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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby valleychamp » January 5th, 2014, 8:03 pm

Black wrote:
I wasn't too thrilled with the last score of the game for UNI either.



lol, wow the team down by a bunch of points threw in a meaningless layup at the buzzer. How despicable.
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