#8 WSU vs. UNI

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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby Heinro » January 6th, 2014, 9:23 am

I didn't see the final play, but by the sounds of it Marshall will not appreciate it. Marshall takes those things to heart; he held a grudge against Drake ever since they shot off fireworks after Drake won the Valley on their senior night. Personally I find the possibility of a pissed off Marshall very exciting. I'm stoked to see us unleash our full fury when ISUr comes in, and I'd love to see it in Cedar Falls as well.
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Postby iSASO » January 6th, 2014, 11:43 am

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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby Ricardo del Rio » January 6th, 2014, 12:23 pm

Khan4Cats wrote:The play at the end of the game was a freshman mistake and I am sure Jake will have something to say to Jeremy about that.

I also remember an upper-classmen from Wichita dunking a ball with a 7 point lead and about 5 seconds left in the game a few years ago when he could have circled it out and run out the clock. Things happen when kids are competing but I would expect an upperclassmen to know better than a true freshman.

Maybe the return game in Cedar Falls will be permitted to be a basketball game instead of some kind of aerial rugby. So much for trying to minimize contact this year. Unless of course anybody breathed too hard on either team's guards outside it seemed. Then again, if either team could have hit some outside shots there wouldn't have been as many scrums going for rebounds either, but geez, that physical a game did not favor UNI.

Anyways, disappointed we lost but knew it would be uphill. We performed better than last year there at least and with a much younger/inexperienced team. Glad this trip is out of the way early in the year. Now need to go to another place that has been trouble for us for years and try and get our first road win.


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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby Cdizzle » January 6th, 2014, 12:32 pm

Khan4Cats wrote:Maybe the return game in Cedar Falls will be permitted to be a basketball game instead of some kind of aerial rugby. So much for trying to minimize contact this year. Unless of course anybody breathed too hard on either team's guards outside it seemed. Then again, if either team could have hit some outside shots there wouldn't have been as many scrums going for rebounds either, but geez, that physical a game did not favor UNI.

Right? The referees have reverted to officiating games in the same manner as previous seasons. It doesn't bother me, necessarily, but it has to make it difficult for coaches/players to know how they can play. I'm really concerned that they will officiate like this the rest of the season but there will be one crew still following the new mandates, that really mucks with everybody. I've watched a lot of basketball over the last couple of weeks, and it looks more and more like games are being called the same as the last couple of years.
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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby unipanther99 » January 6th, 2014, 2:58 pm

The basket by Morgan at the end of the game was a silly freshman mistake, and I'm sure the upperclassman told him immediately after the game. Take the loss and go home. I would really hope Marshall wouldn't hold a grudge over something like that. Showing someone up who you just beat is way different than a gravy steal and basket when you're already beat in the last few seconds.
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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby shocktheheart » January 6th, 2014, 3:00 pm

unipanther99 wrote:The basket by Morgan at the end of the game was a silly freshman mistake, and I'm sure the upperclassman told him immediately after the game. Take the loss and go home. I would really hope Marshall wouldn't hold a grudge over something like that. Showing someone up who you just beat is way different than a gravy steal and basket when you're already beat in the last few seconds.


Doesn't sound like he is holding a grudge to me...

WSU turned the ball over four times in the first 35 minutes of the game and finished with six for the second consecutive game and third time, a season-low.

Marshall lobbied for five. WSU’s final turnover came in the final seconds, when guard Nick Wiggins dropped the ball to end the game. UNI freshman Jeremy Morgan picked up the loose ball and scored, drawing some boos from the crowd.

“I don’t know what Nick was doing there at the end,” Marshall said. “Jeremy Morgan kept playing, and that one shouldn’t count. I was with (UNI coach) Ben (Jacobson) at half court, shaking his hand, and all of sudden they’re laying it in.”

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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby PantherSigEp » January 6th, 2014, 3:13 pm

Khan4Cats wrote:I also remember an upper-classmen from Wichita dunking a ball with a 7 point lead and about 5 seconds left in the game a few years ago when he could have circled it out and run out the clock. Things happen when kids are competing but I would expect an upperclassmen to know better than a true freshman.


I can't possibly understand why you would bring a relevant, recent example into the conversation. Of course I'm sure we'll hear there was a perfectly good reason for it while Jeremy Morgan on the other hand must be a grade A schmuck.

It was a silly thing to do, I think we all can admit that but let's not do the holier-than-thou act again. There is a difference between being classless and just not understanding the situation because you're an inexperienced freshman.
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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby AndShock » January 6th, 2014, 5:49 pm

PantherSigEp wrote:
Khan4Cats wrote:I also remember an upper-classmen from Wichita dunking a ball with a 7 point lead and about 5 seconds left in the game a few years ago when he could have circled it out and run out the clock. Things happen when kids are competing but I would expect an upperclassmen to know better than a true freshman.


I can't possibly understand why you would bring a relevant, recent example into the conversation. Of course I'm sure we'll hear there was a perfectly good reason for it while Jeremy Morgan on the other hand must be a grade A schmuck.

It was a silly thing to do, I think we all can admit that but let's not do the holier-than-thou act again. There is a difference between being classless and just not understanding the situation because you're an inexperienced freshman.


It was actually a 7 point game with 13 seconds left when UNI turned the ball over while still trying to comeback. The dunk was with 10 seconds left.

I will agree that the UNI steal + layup was probably just an honest mistake, but let's not act like dunking the ball instead of taking 2 FTs is even close to the same thing. If we were running a fastbreak trying to score a basket and UNI got a steal + layup I don't think anyone would be complaining.
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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby mvcfan » January 6th, 2014, 11:49 pm

The layup was not a big deal. He didn't know. It bothered me for about 5 seconds, maybe a little longer. :)
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Re: #8 WSU vs. UNI

Postby 2livewu » January 7th, 2014, 6:40 am

Khan4Cats wrote:Then again, if either team could have hit some outside shots there wouldn't have been as many scrums going for rebounds either, but geez, that physical a game did not favor UNI.


I see you're point, but then UNI has no hope against WSU if they can't be physical (and don't kid yourself, they were Sunday) with our bigs, and frankly, I like WSU's chances to make a bunch of the bunnies they missed from 3 feet and in more than the Panthers chances to make long distance shots in the rematch.

I agree that if WSU shoots 35% again they'll be in trouble on the road (anywhere on the road but especially at UNI) but I think it's unlikely they'll shoot it that poorly with the quality shots they should get inside. UNI just doesn't have the horses to keep them away from the basket unless both Friedman and Singleton make gigantic strides in the next 4 weeks.
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