Improving the MVC

[wsushox1]

It's as simple as non-con SoS.

I'm not saying everyone has to be top 100. Just top 225 is enough. Just get to 225. Avoid 275, avoid 325. Just get to 225.

No, it's as simple as $$$$$$$. Money of that many $-places.

[AndShock]

Scheduling doesn't matter if you lose all the games. SIU, Loyola, Bradley and Evansville had no business playing a top 50 schedule. An 0-13 Saluki team going into conference play does nothing to help the conference and it hurts the teams growth. I would expect the top 3-5 teams to schedule better but I don't expect it from the bottom.

False.

SIU OoC SoS - 245
Record - 3-9
RPI - 312

Southern OoC SoS - 8
Record - 1-9
RPI - 186

Loyola OoC SoS - 344
Record - 4-7
RPI - 329

Arkansas Pine-Bluff OoC SoS - 20
Record - 0-10
RPI - 278



It's better to get smacked around by the big boys than play the little guys.

[saluki762]

Scheduling doesn't matter if you lose all the games. SIU, Loyola, Bradley and Evansville had no business playing a top 50 schedule. An 0-13 Saluki team going into conference play does nothing to help the conference and it hurts the teams growth. I would expect the top 3-5 teams to schedule better but I don't expect it from the bottom.

False.

SIU OoC SoS - 245
Record - 3-9
RPI - 312

Southern OoC SoS - 8
Record - 1-9
RPI - 186

Loyola OoC SoS - 344
Record - 4-7
RPI - 329

Arkansas Pine-Bluff OoC SoS - 20
Record - 0-10
RPI - 278



It's better to get smacked around by the big boys than play the little guys.

I would rather have 3 wins. Your tourney aspirations mean nothing to me.

[MissouriValleyUnite]

The operative words in that sentence being "to me". Not everyone's short-sighted to the extent they'd willingly sabotage future NCAA shares for their own school -- let's make that clear.

[uniftw]

The operative words in that sentence being "to me". Not everyone's short-sighted to the extent they'd willingly sabotage future NCAA shares for their own school -- let's make that clear.

It's the way I look at it.

Is you're team going to get a bid this year? In the next couple? If the answer is no remember that when your time is up to be a bubble team that a strong conference history gets you in...not beating up a s*** OOC.

[Heinro]

I would rather have 3 wins. Your tourney aspirations mean nothing to me.

That is a very short sited comment. You would rather be 3-9 with an RPI of 312, than 1-11 with an RPI of 279? Both are equally awful, and from a fan prospective almost undistinguishable. However, lets say SIU is squarely on the bubble, and would likely be in a much better position if the bottom of the league had sacrificed those 2 wins. It is not about your individual team or the individual season. The fact of the matter is, it helps all of us. Well, that is unless you plan on being 3-9 for the next decade, then I guess the wins would be more important since they are so rare.

[uniftw]

I would rather have 3 wins. Your tourney aspirations mean nothing to me.

That is a very short sited comment. You would rather be 3-9 with an RPI of 312, than 1-11 with an RPI of 279? Both are equally awful, and from a fan prospective almost undistinguishable. However, lets say SIU is squarely on the bubble, and would likely be in a much better position if the bottom of the league had sacrificed those 2 wins. It is not about your individual team or the individual season. The fact of the matter is, it helps all of us. Well, that is unless you plan on being 3-9 for the next decade, then I guess the wins would be more important since they are so rare.

This...a billion times this.

Macro picture people...not the extreme micro picture of "What does it do for my team right now"

[CBB_Fan]

Remember that the extra losses from harder scheduling also means more money from buy games and NCAA units (worth about $250,000 per year). The units earned in 2006 were a big reason that Wichita State was able to afford to Gregg Marshall's starting salary of $800,000 the next year. The rest of the MVC needs that money even more if they want to hire and keep good coaching.

That would be #2 in my list of improvements. Coaching. The MVC has had and does have good coaches, but they need to continue to find ways to pay and keep the coaches they do have while keeping themselves competitive with the AAC, MWC, and A10. This is probably much more controversial than the scheduling mandate, but I'd also like a coaching mandate: a guaranteed minimum contract of $400,000-$500,000 for every newly signed MVC coach. Yes teams can be successful for less, but it is hard to stay consistently successful if your coach immediately leaves for greener pastures every time they have a good season.

[Wufan]

Remember that the extra losses from harder scheduling also means more money from buy games and NCAA units (worth about $250,000 per year). The units earned in 2006 were a big reason that Wichita State was able to afford to Gregg Marshall's starting salary of $800,000 the next year. The rest of the MVC needs that money even more if they want to hire and keep good coaching.

That would be #2 in my list of improvements. Coaching. The MVC has had and does have good coaches, but they need to continue to find ways to pay and keep the coaches they do have while keeping themselves competitive with the AAC, MWC, and A10. This is probably much more controversial than the scheduling mandate, but I'd also like a coaching mandate: a guaranteed minimum contract of $400,000-$500,000 for every newly signed MVC coach. Yes teams can be successful for less, but it is hard to stay consistently successful if your coach immediately leaves for greener pastures every time they have a good season.

This is interesting…while I like the general concept of forcing better coaches, I'm not sure this accomplishes it. I'd be much more inclined to require some minimum compensation for any coaching staff (all coaches) after three years or something. Also, this leads to the question of what to do with non men's basketball staffs. I think the best approach would be to increase the league profile and profit, thereby attracting better coaches.

[ptownbraves]

This is probably much more controversial than the scheduling mandate, but I'd also like a coaching mandate: a guaranteed minimum contract of $400,000-$500,000 for every newly signed MVC coach. Yes teams can be successful for less, but it is hard to stay consistently successful if your coach immediately leaves for greener pastures every time they have a good season.

High salaries do not equal success. Sure, it can help, but is by no means a guarantee. The second highest paid coach in the MVC is playing on Thursday night for the 3rd straight year.