Missing Creighton

[Veritas]

I think you keep a balanced perspective with a healthy level of swag for what the Shocks are doing right now; but some do seem to act as if the league has been dominated for a decade and have no chance of catching up with the Shocks. To me , on paper, I'm not sure UNI isn't there now, and a couple other programs just a young stud or two maturing away. Interesting year at hand.

WSU

239-104 and 118-62. With 1 LR. (3 LR. MoVal). 10 years. 1 coaching change
146-34 and 72-18. With 0 LR (0 LR MoVal). 05 years.

[Wufan]

I think you keep a balanced perspective with a healthy level of swag for what the Shocks are doing right now; but some do seem to act as if the league has been dominated for a decade and have no chance of catching up with the Shocks. To me , on paper, I'm not sure UNI isn't there now, and a couple other programs just a young stud or two maturing away. Interesting year at hand.

If there is something sports fans aren't known for, it's humility.

Before Gregg Marshall was at WSU, we had Turgeon for 7 years. In a decade dominated by Creighton and SIU, MT had 5 consecutive winning seasons, three consecutive 20 win seasons, and a sweet 16.

Gregg Marshall has been at WSU for seven years. After an 11-20 inaugural season (which concluded with him being kicked out of the Arch Madness Thursday night game), he was 17-17 in year two. Since then, he has had 5 consecutive seasons of 25 or more wins...something neither CU or SIU have ever done (has any other MVC team?). He's added an NIT championship, three straight NCAA births, a final four, and an undefeated regular season. Over the past 4 years, WSUs average record is 30-6. The Shockers have had the greatest four year run in the history of the MVC.

After a 21-0 MVC season we return an All-American and the MVC POY, the MVC DPOY, and another MVC first teamer that is considered one of the top five shooting guards in the country and a pre-season AA. Last but not least, we return the National COY.

Shocker fans are currently living in the greatest period in WSU basketball history. If ever there was a time to crow, it is now. As a whole, I don't think we've been over the top. Also, I think that the fans of other respective schools have appropriately balanced hate and respect towards the program. The next two years could see a significant rise in the Valley from top to bottom. To suggest that this league is missing a Big East middling this year is preposterous. The youth of this conference is about to explode onto a national level (this year or next) and I, for one, cannot wait for this season to get underway!

[Redbird23]

WTF Andshock changed my post look at the very first one, and then look at Andshock quoting me in the third one

[Wufan]

WTF Andshock changed my post look at the very first one, and then look at Andshock quoting me in the third one

In his defense, your first post wasn't a very good one.

[Redbird23]

I was at a Doug McDermott signing today in Chicago and in line I was thinking wow how much more exciting Arch Madness and the Valley were with Creighton still in the conference.

I was at a Doug McDermott signing today in Chicago and in line I was thinking wow how much more exciting Arch Madness and the Valley were when someone could actually compete with Wichita State.

[Championz]

I was at a Doug McDermott signing today in Chicago and in line I was thinking wow how much more exciting Arch Madness and the Valley were when someone could actually compete with Wichita State.

Wow, win one conference title and now nobody can compete. Wonder what that says about those teams in the 90's and 2000's that won multiple years . Not taken away from the very excellent run and program that WSU is experiencing right now, but the level of disrespect for the rest of the Valley by some will likely haunt.

I think WSU fans can talk a little right now.

I don't think a guy that predicted Marcus Marshall and Gavin Thurman were going to outshine Ron Baker and Fred Van Vleet should be talking that much right now though.

[Championz]

I think you keep a balanced perspective with a healthy level of swag for what the Shocks are doing right now; but some do seem to act as if the league has been dominated for a decade and have no chance of catching up with the Shocks. To me , on paper, I'm not sure UNI isn't there now, and a couple other programs just a young stud or two maturing away. Interesting year at hand.

This thread is turning into one, big, fat joke.

Tell me a Valley program that has gone undefeated in the regular season, undefeated in Valley play, earned a No.1 seed, went to a Final Four, all in a 2 year stretch and then you can tell every Shocker fan to shut up.

Did you really just say UNI and WSU are on the same level?

The posts you make on this site are incredibly dopey. Perhaps, you're the one that needs a little perspective. You're a BEARS fan. Your room for talk is the lowest out there. Shall we entertain your basketball history over the last decade and a half?

[Championz]

WTF Andshock changed my post look at the very first one, and then look at Andshock quoting me in the third one

That was the idea.

[BEARZ77]

If there is something sports fans aren't known for, it's humility. The Shockers have had the greatest four year run in the history of the MVC.

You usually keep a little balance WUfan, so I'm going to assume you simply forgot Cincinnati made 5 straight Final Four appearances , won two straight National Championships and lost in a third straight Championship game. Winning lots of games with todays inflated schedules doesn't match multiple deep runs come tourney time like Cincinnati and Louisville did. If the Shocks could add another final 4 in the next year or so, that would perhaps put them behind only Cincinnati for a period of sustained excellence, but along way to go to get even in the conversation with that team.

[BEARZ77]

This thread is turning into one, big, fat joke.

Tell me a Valley program that has gone undefeated in the regular season, undefeated in Valley play, earned a No.1 seed, went to a Final Four, all in a 2 year stretch and then you can tell every Shocker fan to shut up.

Did you really just say UNI and WSU are on the same level?

The posts you make on this site are incredibly dopey. Perhaps, you're the one that needs a little perspective. You're a BEARS fan. Your room for talk is the lowest out there. Shall we entertain your basketball history over the last decade and a half?

Perhaps when you learn to read you'll be able to participate in a reasonable conversation. I said nothing negative about WSU, in fact gave them credit for a great run. I didn't say UNI's overall program was on par with WSU just that they maybe able to compete for the title this year, which I believe they will. What I said was someone stating the rest of the Valley can't compete with WSU based on a couple years was pretty short sighted, given the history. If WSU had won 3-4 titles in a row, that's a different story. Compete doesn't mean better, it just means it isn't a given, which if you think it is , fine, we'll see if several teams aren't able to push you this year.