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Postby rlh04d » January 10th, 2015, 9:21 am

Wufan wrote:I wouldn't say Jake wouldn't be a contributor, but likely not a star. Definitely could have used Jake this year. The point above that we may not have landed another post (Darius Carter, or Cle) is valid.

Cle and White were on the team together for the Final Four run.

Jake would contribute, but I'm not sure he'd be contributing much more than our freshmen. I think his biggest contribution would be as a foul eater.
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Postby glm38 » January 10th, 2015, 12:45 pm

rlh04d wrote:
Wufan wrote:I wouldn't say Jake wouldn't be a contributor, but likely not a star. Definitely could have used Jake this year. The point above that we may not have landed another post (Darius Carter, or Cle) is valid.

Cle and White were on the team together for the Final Four run.

Jake would contribute, but I'm not sure he'd be contributing much more than our freshmen. I think his biggest contribution would be as a foul eater.


I hate to disagree with a knowledgeable Shockers fan but I thought Jake was a really good player. He was kind of raw during that final four year but you could see the potential and evidently Marshall thought so too because he did get some PT. Marshall and staff seem to develop players well and I think he would have improved quite a bit under their tutelage. I think a front line of White and Carter would be really tough to match up against. Maybe the Shockers young big men will be something special in a few years but right now? I'd take White over them any day of the week (this year).

All just conjecture and my opinion of course.
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Re: Shockers Down !

Postby rlh04d » January 10th, 2015, 2:26 pm

glm38 wrote:
rlh04d wrote:
Wufan wrote:I wouldn't say Jake wouldn't be a contributor, but likely not a star. Definitely could have used Jake this year. The point above that we may not have landed another post (Darius Carter, or Cle) is valid.

Cle and White were on the team together for the Final Four run.

Jake would contribute, but I'm not sure he'd be contributing much more than our freshmen. I think his biggest contribution would be as a foul eater.


I hate to disagree with a knowledgeable Shockers fan but I thought Jake was a really good player. He was kind of raw during that final four year but you could see the potential and evidently Marshall thought so too because he did get some PT. Marshall and staff seem to develop players well and I think he would have improved quite a bit under their tutelage. I think a front line of White and Carter would be really tough to match up against. Maybe the Shockers young big men will be something special in a few years but right now? I'd take White over them any day of the week (this year).

All just conjecture and my opinion of course.

Jake White is currently averaging: 18.7 mpg, 7.3 ppg, 36.8% FG%, 6.5 RPG, 62.5% FT%

If he could provide that at WSU, he'd be a big contributor right now. Big.

The difference is that WSU's noncon SOS was ranked 11th and Omaha's was ranked 347th. Against the kind of teams Omaha is playing, I would expect much better numbers from someone that would be a real contributor at WSU.
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Postby glm38 » January 10th, 2015, 2:52 pm

rlh04d wrote:
glm38 wrote:
I hate to disagree with a knowledgeable Shockers fan but I thought Jake was a really good player. He was kind of raw during that final four year but you could see the potential and evidently Marshall thought so too because he did get some PT. Marshall and staff seem to develop players well and I think he would have improved quite a bit under their tutelage. I think a front line of White and Carter would be really tough to match up against. Maybe the Shockers young big men will be something special in a few years but right now? I'd take White over them any day of the week (this year).

All just conjecture and my opinion of course.

Jake White is currently averaging: 18.7 mpg, 7.3 ppg, 36.8% FG%, 6.5 RPG, 62.5% FT%

If he could provide that at WSU, he'd be a big contributor right now. Big.

The difference is that WSU's noncon SOS was ranked 11th and Omaha's was ranked 347th. Against the kind of teams Omaha is playing, I would expect much better numbers from someone that would be a real contributor at WSU.
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But he's coming off an injury isn't he? Would be have been injured had he remained a Shocker? May be but maybe not. And I think you are discounting what Marshall does from a player development standpoint.

I do see your point though. It all just depends on whether he's currently at his ceiling or not. We'll likely never know.
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Postby rlh04d » January 10th, 2015, 3:12 pm

glm38 wrote:But he's coming off an injury isn't he? Would be have been injured had he remained a Shocker? May be but maybe not. And I think you are discounting what Marshall does from a player development standpoint.

I do see your point though. It all just depends on whether he's currently at his ceiling or not. We'll likely never know.

Anything is possible. I just think if either White or Marshall thought there was a chance of White being a real contributor at WSU, he'd still be there.
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Postby ShoxNAwe » January 10th, 2015, 5:03 pm

Jake White was a good MVC-level talent. I think that's partially why he isn't at WSU these days.
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