Missouri St at Wichita St - Sunday 7:30pm ESPNU

[WSUbballer]

No, I'm talking about your home court winning streak. If you think a noisy environment is overrated, then you are either
a.) jealous
b.) not very insightful

No, it doesn't automatically equate to WIN, but it has its times when things happen to the opposing team in a negative way directly because of it, as shockerfan mentioned. Not only that, but it's a good presentation of the school. I can't imagine that anyone wouldn't like to have a noisy environment at their home basketball games, but maybe that's just me.

[TNMSUFAN]

Good college basketball game and good win. Didn't really play that well especially the 2nd half but found a way to get it done. Long way to go but a good start to the Valley season.

[Aargh]

There are some reasons why MSU won this game:
1. They were the better team.
2. They were the better-coached team.
3. They were the better-prepared team.

That could have been a text book example of taking WSU out of their offense. Then WSU's guards appeared to get frustrated and that made things worse for WSU. 4 missed (and pretty much undefended) bunnies in the first half and poor FT shooting contributed.

I'm now afraid of the broom I posted. VERY AFRAID. The sweep is still in place and could happen, but not in the direction I was hoping.

[AndShock]

I don't know whether it was Marshall's fault or the players', but those set plays they ran at the end of the game were awful. If those were called by the coach, I think it is okay to question the coaching in this game. If the players ran a different play than the one Marshall called, then it would be a fair criticism to say that they are a poorly disciplined club (also, the horrible FT shooting would seemingly reinforce that conclusion as well, at least for this game).

Not sure exactly what you're referring to, but according to Marshall they didn't run what he talked about in the timeouts. If I'm thinking of the right plays, I don't think they were running set plays. I think it was standing around passing the ball waiting to turn the ball over or chuck up a horrible shot (might be our PG/Murry issue.) Wichita State is 50th in the country in FT%, and that's including the SWOMO game. I won't defend the players completely crapping the bed at the end of the game, but the free throws were a bit out of character. Maybe it was just the pressure of the game.

[cu36]

Great game by both teams.

MO ST looked very bad against WSU's dribble drive, and MO ST couldn't gain control because of WSU's rebounding down the stretch. But they found a way to win. While no one wants those two things to be a weak part of their game, they found a way to win, which is important no matter who you are. MO ST is definitely in the driver's seat.

[DoubleJayAlum]

I don't know whether it was Marshall's fault or the players', but those set plays they ran at the end of the game were awful. If those were called by the coach, I think it is okay to question the coaching in this game. If the players ran a different play than the one Marshall called, then it would be a fair criticism to say that they are a poorly disciplined club (also, the horrible FT shooting would seemingly reinforce that conclusion as well, at least for this game).

Not sure exactly what you're referring to, but according to Marshall they didn't run what he talked about in the timeouts. If I'm thinking of the right plays, I don't think they were running set plays. I think it was standing around passing the ball waiting to turn the ball over or chuck up a horrible shot (might be our PG/Murry issue.) Wichita State is 50th in the country in FT%, and that's including the SWOMO game. I won't defend the players completely crapping the bed at the end of the game, but the free throws were a bit out of character. Maybe it was just the pressure of the game.

I really don't understand what you are arguing about. If it is true that Marshall called one play and the players decided to run something else, that is a textbook example of being poorly disciplined.

[iSASO]

Thanks for your expert analysis, DoubleJay, we've been anxiously awaiting your take so that we may move on with our program. None of us could find anything wrong. It's been well-documented (right?) that WSU is a poorly disciplined team. MSU scores one bucket in the final 10:30 of the game. I mean, that tells you right there that the team doesn't have the discipline to play defense, rebound and erase a 13-point deficit.

The team is shooting upwards of 80% from the free throw line this season. Just horrbily embarrassing.

I don't mean to diminsh your expert analysis DoubleJay, but here are a few facts from the game:
In the final 8 minutes, WSU shot 5/6 from the FT line, MSU shot 3/6.
For the entire game, WSU shot 52.6% from the line, MSU shot 53.8%

A 1.2% difference. Clearly, based on FT shooting MSU is clearly the more disciplined team. The facts show that, right?

Would you recommend firing the coach now? Is Rick Johnson available?

[DUShock]

Good win for the Bears. The Bears played with intensity and found a way to win while the Shocks, well, found a way to consistently give it away. In the end a W is all that matters and it goes to the MSU Bears. The Valley regular season is now MSU's to lose but several teams still have the potential & opportunity to make a difference. If MSU doesn't stumble down the stretch and the Shocks can get back on course the February 26th game in Springfield could be another doozy.

Go Valley!!

Go Shocks!!!!

[DoubleJayAlum]

Thanks for your expert analysis, DoubleJay, we've been anxiously awaiting your take so that we may move on with our program. None of us could find anything wrong. It's been well-documented (right?) that WSU is a poorly disciplined team. MSU scores one bucket in the final 10:30 of the game. I mean, that tells you right there that the team doesn't have the discipline to play defense, rebound and erase a 13-point deficit.

The team is shooting upwards of 80% from the free throw line this season. Just horrbily embarrassing.

I don't mean to diminsh your expert analysis DoubleJay, but here are a few facts from the game:
In the final 8 minutes, WSU shot 5/6 from the FT line, MSU shot 3/6.
For the entire game, WSU shot 52.6% from the line, MSU shot 53.8%

A 1.2% difference. Clearly, based on FT shooting MSU is clearly the more disciplined team. The facts show that, right?

Would you recommend firing the coach now? Is Rick Johnson available?

I take it all back. It is a great idea that Murray completely ignored the plays called by Marshall during the two timeouts late in the game. After all, WSU scored on both of those improvisations, right?

[iSASO]

...(also, the horrible FT shooting would seemingly reinforce that conclusion as well, at least for this game).

Please try to stay with me here. I completely agree with you that on those final possessions, WSU showed the least amount of discipline in the entire history of college basketball. But on free throws, which "seemingly reinforce that conclusion" you ignore facts? That's not what I expect from the person I rely on to provide my opinions on my team.