WSU sexual assault investigation

[rlh04d]

CFA Jay wrote:
first thing that comes to mind is I hope the victim is ok. That is absolutely terrible. Also just shows the character of the alleged attacker. One bad apple spoils the bunch. This is a huge black eye for the WSU athletics and university as a whole.

Looks to me like he was saying , i quote, "Also just shows the character of the alleged attacker. One bad apple spoils the bunch" He is saying exactly what your saying i think. That it only shows the character of the alleged attacker , and not the character of the team or university. So I dont know why you are jumping all over him. The one thing he should of said, that he didnt say, is that it only shows the character of the attacker IF he is guilty of this. It's possible she wasn't really raped, but who knows at this point. It is unfortunate, and also unfortunate for WSU because it IS a black eye for the time being, even if it isn't true. And even though it shouldn't be , because this was in individual's mistake IF it happened, and NOT a University or Team mistake. The news article really shouldn't have thrown in "Member of Wichita's Final 4 Team", must of been a Jayhawk fan.

He jumped to the immediate conclusion of guilt. "Alleged attacker" doesn't hold much weight when you put in that it shows his character without any caveat of waiting to see if it's actually true. It's an immediate conclusion that an accusation shows a man's character, ruins the whole bunch, and gives the university a black eye.

As for the black eye comments ... it's a black eye if it's true. It's a sucker punch to the testicles if it's not. There has to be a difference there. If these allegations are not true, then the "alleged attacker" and WSU as a whole are the victims here.

I don't want to excuse anyone ... if it's true, it's disgusting and I hope he's punished to the full extent of the law. However, if it's not true, I hope she's punished for lying to the police. All anyone can do is wait for the legal and criminal process to work itself out.

[AndShock]

No charges to be filed at this time.

[rlh04d]

http://www.kansas.com/2013/05/31/282672 ... chita.html

Awful choice by the Wichita police department to go the press with this in the first place. Do the investigation, but don't go to the press calling out kids that you don't even have enough evidence against to charge.

[Aargh]

4 graduating WSU basketball players now have their reputations damaged for years because someone at the Wichita Police Department leaked confidential info about an investigation that turned out to be a false report of a crime.

Then the press ran with it because WSU's F4 run was still hot news, so anything WSU-related was going to sell newspapers or get Internet hits.

[BEARZ77]

4 graduating WSU basketball players now have their reputations damaged for years because someone at the Wichita Police Department leaked confidential info about an investigation that turned out to be a false report of a crime.

Then the press ran with it because WSU's F4 run was still hot news, so anything WSU-related was going to sell newspapers or get Internet hits.

Not sure not having enough evidence to charge someone is the same as a "false report".

[Snaggletooth]

4 graduating WSU basketball players now have their reputations damaged for years

let stop with the drama - it is well known who this player was. The other 3 won't be tainted by this.

because someone at the Wichita Police Department leaked confidential info about an investigation

how is an investigation confidential? People are investigated and it is made public all the time. You always see in the media the police say this person is a "person of interest".

I might offer another scenario - the Wichita police was worried they might be accused of "coverup" and released just enough information to say we are investigating the allegations without embarrassing the player specifically. It could be a much bigger embarrassment if it was ignored and the media started digging deeper. This player doesn't have a stellar reputation of being a gentleman with the woman.

that turned out to be a false report of a crime.

That what OJ simpson said also.

[rlh04d]

4 graduating WSU basketball players now have their reputations damaged for years because someone at the Wichita Police Department leaked confidential info about an investigation that turned out to be a false report of a crime.

Then the press ran with it because WSU's F4 run was still hot news, so anything WSU-related was going to sell newspapers or get Internet hits.

Not sure not having enough evidence to charge someone is the same as a "false report".

Yes. And in all honesty, sexual assaults are incredibly difficult to get the full story about. Really, as long as there is no eyewitness account against him, and no physical signs of force, there likely won't be any charges filed.

I don't know what else you can do in a situation like this but give the legal system the benefit of the doubt and count him as innocent if charges aren't filed. Of course that isn't guaranteed.

From what I know about sexual assault charges, it's far less likely to be a matter of a false report than an issue of alcohol where the woman might have regretted it after the fact or had no memory of it whatsoever.

how is an investigation confidential? People are investigated and it is made public all the time. You always see in the media the police say this person is a "person of interest".

I have never seen the police issue a statement about a kid that is being investigated for sexual assault. That was done entirely because he was a local celebrity.

Granted, your comment about being afraid of being seen as covering it up might hold some water.

[Snaggletooth]

I have never seen the police issue a statement about a kid that is being investigated for sexual assault.

Remember the Duke Lacrosse thing? Sure it happens.

That was done entirely because he was a local celebrity.

Of course it was. If you are a local celebrity then you are going to have a higher level of scrutiny. Because people are interested. Nobody care about what rlh04d does, you could rape yourself and the police could have a press conference and nobody would show up.

If you are in the limelight then you must be more responsible. Nothing good happens after midnight.

[glm38]

Wouldn't the best thing to do regarding this unfortunate incident be to just close the thread? Or at the very least stop posting in it. I didn't see the point of it in the first place. But since the investigation seems to be going nowhere it serves no point to keep talking about it.

[rlh04d]

I have never seen the police issue a statement about a kid that is being investigated for sexual assault.

Remember the Duke Lacrosse thing? Sure it happens.

As I recall, the Duke Lacrosse had something to do with not knowing which players on the team had done it, and so the investigation into all of the players made it news.

Regardless, nothing good comes out of going to the press regarding an investigation without charges being filed. Being against a celebrity doesn't make it okay.