Coaching Churn

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Coaching Churn

Postby BEARZ77 » March 5th, 2021, 8:58 am

I would think in general, both Drake and Loyola have to be a bit concerned going into this off season regarding opportunities for Moser and Devries , but that could get even more pronounced in the next week or two. DePaul and NW have always been possibilities if they open, but now I would suspect if Creighton lets McDermott go, Devries hops up to a prime contender there.

looking at the Valley past those two being possibly pursued, things probably come down to Lansing and Muller as possible moves with neither being a sure thing because of salary issues and the fact Lansing might be in position to make a run. What happens if he makes Sunday or perhaps even wins ?
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby BCPanther » March 5th, 2021, 10:23 am

If Creighton fires McDermott, which they shouldn't, they will 1000000% hire a black head coach.

I think Muller gets one more shot with the young group he has, assuming they don't all transfer out.

Lansing needs to get to Sunday and then dare them to fire him. They're set up to be pretty good next year too.

Moser's too smart to take DePaul but Boston College or Northwestern might be too much to pass up.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby Majik45 » March 5th, 2021, 10:23 am

BEARZ77 wrote:I would think in general, both Drake and Loyola have to be a bit concerned going into this off season regarding opportunities for Moser and Devries , but that could get even more pronounced in the next week or two. DePaul and NW have always been possibilities if they open, but now I would suspect if Creighton lets McDermott go, Devries hops up to a prime contender there.

looking at the Valley past those two being possibly pursued, things probably come down to Lansing and Muller as possible moves with neither being a sure thing because of salary issues and the fact Lansing might be in position to make a run. What happens if he makes Sunday or perhaps even wins ?


I don't think Porter or Devries is dumb enough to take the Depaul Job. That's a horrible job.

Wouldn't Porter be a possibility at Creighton as well, since he played there?
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby municup14 » March 5th, 2021, 11:00 am

I believe if any coach leaves it would Devries,DePaul and Northwestern I don't think would be high on his list.
Now Iowa St.could be a stop for DeVries.McDurmette isn't going anywhere unless the black assistant coach pushes it,and he takes over.Now the Lansing situation is,lose today hes gone,make the championship game,it could get real interesting. As a Aces fan I think Lansing has done a good job considering what he has to work with,kinda like the Evansville job it's tough to get quality players to go to ISU and UE
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby Salukimadness86 » March 5th, 2021, 11:50 am

BEARZ77 wrote:I would think in general, both Drake and Loyola have to be a bit concerned going into this off season regarding opportunities for Moser and Devries , but that could get even more pronounced in the next week or two. DePaul and NW have always been possibilities if they open, but now I would suspect if Creighton lets McDermott go, Devries hops up to a prime contender there.

looking at the Valley past those two being possibly pursued, things probably come down to Lansing and Muller as possible moves with neither being a sure thing because of salary issues and the fact Lansing might be in position to make a run. What happens if he makes Sunday or perhaps even wins ?


Not sure why Moser would want to leave after building a solid top 25 program. DePaul and Northwestern are train wrecks. Extremely difficult to win at NU because of academic standards. Not many NCAA or NIT tournament appearances there. AD at Demon U is the big issue.
I could see Devries leaving however.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby Adunk33 » March 5th, 2021, 12:15 pm

Most Redbird fans are ready to see a change. Now, that very likely comes with losing the young core. Primarily, Washington Fleming and Horne. I think Muller gets another season for three reasons. 1. He fielded one of the youngest teams in the country. 2. COVID- Every player gets an extra year so for a team like ILST, this season is essentially a wash. 3. Money. He's got three years left on his deal. If he gets bought out, its 1.5 million. In a year when the university had little to no revenue coming in from athletics, that's a pretty large bill to take on.

The contract set up by the previous AD was very coach-friendly. If Muller were to get canned, he still gets the full amount. If Muller were to leave and take a new job, he'd have to pay ILST 50k (if I'm remembering correctly) and schedule a game at Redbird with his new team. Muller is definitely benefitting from that.

The Lansing situation is so interesting...I like GL a lot and think he's a good coach in a really bad situation. Now that the Birds are eliminated, I'm rooting hard for INST to win it all. I love a good sports drama and nothing screams it more than telling a coach you aren't bringing him back then have them go out and win a championship. I'd love to see it.

I think the Creighton situation is interesting and nothing will end up happening with McD. I read that he offered to resign and the team didn't want him to. He'll be back but I'd assume when that job opens, Moser and Devries are both on the short list.

Devries and Iowa State seem to be picking up some steam as well. DD is a hell of a coach, but if he really believes all of his players are coming back next year, that could be a really scary team if they are all healthy.

If Porter was going to make a move, I think this would be a good time for him to transition. Of course, they have good talent in the program but with Krutwig, Williamson and Co heading out after the season, one could argue that is the end of Moser's Final Four era and a good time for him to move on.

It'll be an interesting next four or so weeks.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby tribecalledquest » March 5th, 2021, 3:03 pm

Dan Muller isn't going anywhere.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby BirdsEyeView » March 5th, 2021, 4:57 pm

tribecalledquest wrote:Dan Muller isn't going anywhere.


:Bam:

My interest in IL St. & Valley Hoops has gone to nothing, because of that man. What a waste of a legacy, ruining his playing days by his poor coaching ability.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby AcesAces » March 5th, 2021, 8:13 pm

Evansville should be pretty happy where the program is considering the BS of the last couple of years. Lickliter improved the program in every facet except attendance which is understandable.

Although the seniors were enjoyable to watch, it is time for them to move forward with their lives and allow the younger players their opportunity.

Givance, Newton and Curtis form a very strong guard trio. With 3 open spots, Lickliter should be able to bring in talent to compliment them and the current benchwarmers who should be ready to step up.

Attendance will soon be back near the top of the league as the program moves forward.

Great job Coach Lickliter, his staff and the Aces!
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby Milanmiracle » March 6th, 2021, 3:43 pm

I can’t see Moser leaving for anything but a big major job, like IU. That level would concern me if I were a Loyola fan. That said, DePaul and Northwestern aren’t a concern as Loyola is arguably the better program of the 3 despite both being in better conferences (guaranteed better than DePaul). I think he stays and continues to make Loyola the next Creighton/Wichita St where you’re more surprised when they don’t make the tournament.
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