Marshall

[Aces1982]

funny he can't even get his facts correct.

4 NCAA
2 Conference tournament Champions
1 Sweet 16

Of course he starts it at 1985 so instead of say 1980 because u would have to add in another

1 NCAA
1 Elite 8
2 MVC Regular season Championships

so you really have:

5 NCAA
1 S-16
1 Elite 8
3 Regular Season Champions
2 tournament Champion

Or from 1980 to Present
NIT Championship
10 NCAA Appearances
2 S-16
1 Elite 8
1 Final 4
7 Regular Season Champions
4 MVC tournament Champions

25 years is plenty of years to see. But I didn't think you would want to go back to '80. Because we would have to include NCAA violations and that doesn't look good on a program.

I will stick with the 25 year mark, half a centruy. SIU and Illinois St was arguably better then Wichita St. I know it's a hard pill to swallow for the Shocker faithful as they think their crap don't stink.

The last 6 years Wichita has been one of the better programs in the country. Things can change that quickly. Enjoy it while you can and don't think you can't fall back to SIU level. It can and will happen eventually.

[Play Angry]

lol what a revelation that WSU sucked in the 90s. Thank you for that earth shattering newsflash.

The current WSU run has been unequaled in heights reached and period of sustained excellence by any current member other than Bradley, ever, and for Bradley you need to go back six+ decades to find their era of dominance which exceeds that of the Shockers at this moment. It's pretty cool.

No one would dispute we were a dumpster fire for a decade ending back when current college freshman were being conceived. Luckily, recruits don't seem to give a damn about it, so the forecast remains sunny in Wichita.

[Wufan]

I don't think it's a hard pill to swallow at all. You cherry picked the WORST 25 years in the history of WSU and we came in third. THIRD in the worst quarter century ever.

[Play Angry]

The real bitter pill here is the suppository that the Gregg Marshall era has represented for the high stakes gambler from Evansville. The success just never seems to end amirite?

Back to the topic at hand - not much in terms of new developments these last few days. Indiana seems to be the heaviest domino in the stack and we won't hear much there til this weekend. Regardless of Crean's fate, I won't be stressing much.

[TheObserver]

funny he can't even get his facts correct.

4 NCAA
2 Conference tournament Champions
1 Sweet 16

Of course he starts it at 1985 so instead of say 1980 because u would have to add in another

1 NCAA
1 Elite 8
2 MVC Regular season Championships

so you really have:

5 NCAA
1 S-16
1 Elite 8
3 Regular Season Champions
2 tournament Champion

Or from 1980 to Present
NIT Championship
10 NCAA Appearances
2 S-16
1 Elite 8
1 Final 4
7 Regular Season Champions
4 MVC tournament Champions

25 years is plenty of years to see. But I didn't think you would want to go back to '80. Because we would have to include NCAA violations and that doesn't look good on a program.

I will stick with the 25 year mark, half a centruy. SIU and Illinois St was arguably better then Wichita St. I know it's a hard pill to swallow for the Shocker faithful as they think their crap don't stink.

The last 6 years Wichita has been one of the better programs in the country. Things can change that quickly. Enjoy it while you can and don't think you can't fall back to SIU level. It can and will happen eventually.

You're such a desperate fool. But I'll entertain you again nonetheless.

What exactly is your point of picking out arbitrary periods of time that have nothing to do with.. well anything? Because that's the only thing you have since the present is so unforgiving for you?

Are you comparing WSU and SIU and thinking both situations are the same? Was SIU able to pay its coaches millions of dollars in the mid-2000s? The landscapes are completely different now than when SIU's decline began in 2007. And it's become clear that is your one true hope in life that WSU will become a perennial play-in team EVENTUALLY. Well, considering that time is unending, the odds might be in your favor for that to happen in the next 1000 years. But unfortunately for you, WSU is in a much better position than SIU was in 2007, both financially, nationally-perceived, and with support. Not to mention they appear to have interest in better conferences which would make them impossible to sink to a level of SIU because a bad American team is better than a bad Valley team.

If WSU does end up like the program you hope and pray for, then this conference becomes a bunch of Evansvilles, wallowing around in obscurity. You hope WSU gets taken down to your level, than wanting your school catch WSU.

You're a pathetic Hoosier/Aces fan and have a horrible understanding of basketball.

[Aces1982]

funny he can't even get his facts correct.

4 NCAA
2 Conference tournament Champions
1 Sweet 16

Of course he starts it at 1985 so instead of say 1980 because u would have to add in another

1 NCAA
1 Elite 8
2 MVC Regular season Championships

so you really have:

5 NCAA
1 S-16
1 Elite 8
3 Regular Season Champions
2 tournament Champion

Or from 1980 to Present
NIT Championship
10 NCAA Appearances
2 S-16
1 Elite 8
1 Final 4
7 Regular Season Champions
4 MVC tournament Champions

25 years is plenty of years to see. But I didn't think you would want to go back to '80. Because we would have to include NCAA violations and that doesn't look good on a program.

I will stick with the 25 year mark, half a centruy. SIU and Illinois St was arguably better then Wichita St. I know it's a hard pill to swallow for the Shocker faithful as they think their crap don't stink.

The last 6 years Wichita has been one of the better programs in the country. Things can change that quickly. Enjoy it while you can and don't think you can't fall back to SIU level. It can and will happen eventually.

You're such a desperate fool. But I'll entertain you again nonetheless.

What exactly is your point of picking out arbitrary periods of time that have nothing to do with.. well anything? Because that's the only thing you have since the present is so unforgiving for you?

Are you comparing WSU and SIU and thinking both situations are the same? Was SIU able to pay its coaches millions of dollars in the mid-2000s? The landscapes are completely different now than when SIU's decline began in 2007. And it's become clear that is your one true hope in life that WSU will become a perennial play-in team EVENTUALLY. Well, considering that time is unending, the odds might be in your favor for that to happen in the next 1000 years. But unfortunately for you, WSU is in a much better position than SIU was in 2007, both financially, nationally-perceived, and with support. Not to mention they appear to have interest in better conferences which would make them impossible to sink to a level of SIU because a bad American team is better than a bad Valley team.

If WSU does end up like the program you hope and pray for, then this conference becomes a bunch of Evansvilles, wallowing around in obscurity. You hope WSU gets taken down to your level, than wanting your school catch WSU.

You're a pathetic Hoosier/Aces fan and have a horrible understanding of basketball.

The Valley survived 25 years when Wichita sucked. They would survive if it happened again.

And yes I can't wait till that happens because of the arrogance of some of the Wichita fan base on the message boards. Just like at the old Valley board when you couldn't wait till SIU went into the "abyss" because of their posters.

The point was that there were not 2 good mid major programs. I proclaimed that there were. Just because one program hasn't excelled the last several years does not make them a bad program. As I pointed out to a 25 year of bad basketball for WSU. And you are proving my point to take up for those 25 years.

I will be done with this topic now.

[TheObserver]

Sports is about arrogance. That's the whole point of being a fan - winning and bragging it up against the losers. I'm not sure what else it is about. But then again, you've been on the losing end for the better part of the last 20 years so that's expected. And by the way, you're the most arrogant, welching fan of them all -and you're a fan of FREAKING EVANSVILLE, so I'm not sure why you're so hypocritical about this.

You're spinning in circles and falling over like a 2 year old. You make little to no sense. By your infinite display of logic, every program in the entire country is a good program because for the most part there have been 2-3 year stints of good years for most schools. But once again, programs are compared on an overall level. You don't like that notion because your argument gets destroyed badly. Very badly. Like every argument you venture into... (Oklahoma State LOL, welching bet, etc.)

From 2013-present: WSU has a better program than Indiana.
In 2017, Northern Kentucky has a better program than Evansville.

[Wufan]

You will be done with what? Demonstrating that in the worst 25 years of WSU basketball that the Shockers were still better than the entire 22 years of Evansville in the MVC?

[Wufan]

Sports is about arrogance. That's the whole point of being a fan - winning and bragging it up against the losers. I'm not sure what else it is about. .

I disagree with this.

[TheObserver]

Sports is about arrogance. That's the whole point of being a fan - winning and bragging it up against the losers. I'm not sure what else it is about. .

I disagree with this.

You don't have to necessarily do it in a mean or hateful way (depending on the team/fans), but that's what you're basically doing. You want your team to win and you want the team you're playing to lose. You want to be better than the teams you're playing against.

Unless you're a YMCA fan. If I'm wrong, then tell me what it's about.