If Wichita Left.... (RPI Talk)

[AndShock]

The Big West went from 16 to 29 this year with no member changes. Don't know if it is relevant to this topic but I thought it was interesting.

[Play Angry]

Shockers are currently #27 in the RPI and did in fact win in St. Louis this season - both relevant to specific discussions on the current and prior pages.

[Stickboy46]

Random Curiousity, I took ISU's RPI of 31 and dropped their 3 games against WSU. Their RPI went from 31 to 38.

Though if WSU left, they would backfill WSU with someone else. UMKC has been rumored before and they are a middleish of the pack RPI (180). So I took ISU and changed the W/L/L to WSU over to UMKC. RPI Jumps to 49.

Though most likely, ISU would probably sweep UMKC in the regular season. So I ran that. Put W/W/L for ISU vs UMKC and their RPI is 42. So a 28-5 (18-0) ISU would lose 11 spots in the RPI compared to a 27-5 (17-1) ISU with WSU on the schedule.

Just some random thoughts on how it would ripple through the league.

[BirdsEyeView]

Random Curiousity, I took ISU's RPI of 31 and dropped their 3 games against WSU. Their RPI went from 31 to 38.

Though if WSU left, they would backfill WSU with someone else. UMKC has been rumored before and they are a middleish of the pack RPI (180). So I took ISU and changed the W/L/L to WSU over to UMKC. RPI Jumps to 49.

Though most likely, ISU would probably sweep UMKC in the regular season. So I ran that. Put W/W/L for ISU vs UMKC and their RPI is 42. So a 28-5 (18-0) ISU would lose 11 spots in the RPI compared to a 27-5 (17-1) ISU with WSU on the schedule.

Just some random thoughts on how it would ripple through the league.

Honestly, I am more concerned with the dead weight right now than WSU. Upgrade SIU, ISUb, MSU, Bradley. Plus, UNI had a terribly down year...might again next year. Others need to simply schedule better (Evansville) regardless of their potential and that discernible difference goes away with those programs.

Improve the weak to make up the difference for a loss at the top...OR...keep the team at the top and upgrade everyone else. Then ISUr is not sitting on the bubble right now.

[Stickboy46]

Random Curiousity, I took ISU's RPI of 31 and dropped their 3 games against WSU. Their RPI went from 31 to 38.

Though if WSU left, they would backfill WSU with someone else. UMKC has been rumored before and they are a middleish of the pack RPI (180). So I took ISU and changed the W/L/L to WSU over to UMKC. RPI Jumps to 49.

Though most likely, ISU would probably sweep UMKC in the regular season. So I ran that. Put W/W/L for ISU vs UMKC and their RPI is 42. So a 28-5 (18-0) ISU would lose 11 spots in the RPI compared to a 27-5 (17-1) ISU with WSU on the schedule.

Just some random thoughts on how it would ripple through the league.

Honestly, I am more concerned with the dead weight right now than WSU. Upgrade SIU, ISUb, MSU, Bradley. Plus, UNI had a terribly down year...might again next year. Others need to simply schedule better (Evansville) regardless of their potential and that discernible difference goes away with those programs.

Improve the weak to make up the difference for a loss at the top...OR...keep the team at the top and upgrade everyone else. Then ISUr is not sitting on the bubble right now.

Correct, if 3 or 4 teams can just manage to be Top 100 ... its a totally different story. That's really not a lot to ask.

[RoyalShock]

Random Curiousity, I took ISU's RPI of 31 and dropped their 3 games against WSU. Their RPI went from 31 to 38.

Though if WSU left, they would backfill WSU with someone else. UMKC has been rumored before and they are a middleish of the pack RPI (180). So I took ISU and changed the W/L/L to WSU over to UMKC. RPI Jumps to 49.

Though most likely, ISU would probably sweep UMKC in the regular season. So I ran that. Put W/W/L for ISU vs UMKC and their RPI is 42. So a 28-5 (18-0) ISU would lose 11 spots in the RPI compared to a 27-5 (17-1) ISU with WSU on the schedule.

Just some random thoughts on how it would ripple through the league.

If you removed WSU's two games from every other MVC team's schedule (an additional 16-game impact) and replaced them with UMKC, I wonder what the average RPI drop per team would be? ISU would lose a few more than 11 spots. A wild guess would put it at 15-20, also the average drop among the others.

[TheObserver]

I was told when this thread was created that WSU leaving would have a minimal effect on the conference's RPI.

[Cdizzle]

I was told when this thread was created that WSU leaving would have a minimal effect on the conference's RPI.

That's because some people don't understand how math works.

[mvcfan]

I like all Valley schools but I would have a party. Others want you o be where we are so they are angry and jealous. The MVC just isn't a challenge for us anymore. However that said, I do hope that ISUR gets invited to the NCAA and I do think they could win a game or two.

[Snaggletooth]

Others need to simply schedule better (Evansville) regardless of their potential and that discernible difference goes away with those programs.

Evansville had the 2nd hardest non-conference SOS in the conference?

There were only 3 schools that scheduled bad:

SWMO: 331
DU: 212
LUC: 279

The really problem is the league is they need to win their game in non-conference.

MVC was 1-38 in non-conference play vs Top 50