MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team league

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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby MissouriValleyUnite » May 2nd, 2017, 12:27 pm

(Love Valpo at #10.)

You have a school with 2 top 25 teams, 2 NCAA wins, college gameday & lottery pick this decade, Gottfried/Cronin/Kennedy/Prohm, travel in droves and 29 consecutive winning seasons -- holding a public BOR meeting to increase athletic budget long term, raise $1.4M next year ($1M exit fee), cite UNI as a school that raised its profile in hoops & realignment, dream of being with unnamed peer institutions, and implicitly begging to join?

And you reject this school at #11?

Whichever presidents meddled against Murray get a M A S S I V E middle finger from me.
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby E-Villan » May 2nd, 2017, 12:39 pm

MissouriValleyUnite wrote:(Love Valpo at #10.)

You have a school with 2 top 25 teams, 2 NCAA wins, college gameday & lottery pick this decade, Gottfried/Cronin/Kennedy/Prohm, travel in droves and 29 consecutive winning seasons -- holding a public BOR meeting to increase athletic budget long term, raise $1.4M next year ($1M exit fee), cite UNI as a school that raised its profile in hoops & realignment, dream of being with unnamed peer institutions, and implicitly begging to join?

And you reject this school at #11?

Whichever presidents meddled against Murray get a M A S S I V E middle finger from me.


The Presidents haven't voted yet. This is all speculative.

Mark Adams is usually pretty solid, but I am not sure the benefit of tweeting this out without facts.
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby havoc » May 2nd, 2017, 12:43 pm

Breds20 wrote:I'd have to guess the puppy dogs and aces blocked Murray St. If Adams sources are correct


The two programs with an established relationship? That makes zero sense.

Obviously all speculation, but I'd tend to lean more toward football being a sticking point than the two programs that depend on Murray State for one of their better non-conference games each year.
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby E-Villan » May 2nd, 2017, 12:58 pm

havoc wrote:
Breds20 wrote:I'd have to guess the puppy dogs and aces blocked Murray St. If Adams sources are correct


The two programs with an established relationship? That makes zero sense.

Obviously all speculation, but I'd tend to lean more toward football being a sticking point than the two programs that depend on Murray State for one of their better non-conference games each year.


I just posted the same thing on the UE board. If, and I repeat if there is any truth to this, my guess is also with football. It may be too late to get a schedule in the MVFC for this fall. The OVC may have told Murray if you are out, you are out now, knowing full well that would screw them with no place for football this season.
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby IllinoisState » May 2nd, 2017, 1:03 pm

E-Villan wrote:
havoc wrote:
Breds20 wrote:I'd have to guess the puppy dogs and aces blocked Murray St. If Adams sources are correct


The two programs with an established relationship? That makes zero sense.

Obviously all speculation, but I'd tend to lean more toward football being a sticking point than the two programs that depend on Murray State for one of their better non-conference games each year.


I just posted the same thing on the UE board. If, and I repeat if there is any truth to this, my guess is also with football. It may be too late to get a schedule in the MVFC for this fall. The OVC may have told Murray if you are out, you are out now, knowing full well that would screw them with no place for football this season.


Then why wouldn't they have an invite for 2018 to 2019?
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby BCPanther » May 2nd, 2017, 1:10 pm

E-Villan wrote:
havoc wrote:
Breds20 wrote:I'd have to guess the puppy dogs and aces blocked Murray St. If Adams sources are correct


The two programs with an established relationship? That makes zero sense.

Obviously all speculation, but I'd tend to lean more toward football being a sticking point than the two programs that depend on Murray State for one of their better non-conference games each year.


I just posted the same thing on the UE board. If, and I repeat if there is any truth to this, my guess is also with football. It may be too late to get a schedule in the MVFC for this fall. The OVC may have told Murray if you are out, you are out now, knowing full well that would screw them with no place for football this season.


That would literally screw over every school in the league. You can't find a game to replace that in May.
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby Breds20 » May 2nd, 2017, 1:13 pm

It is awful late for football. I just figured if Murray got an invite football would be next year. Hard to change schedules this late for fall sports. I can see basketball as an easy fix. We play practically the same schedule and tournament time frame.
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby RacerJoeD » May 2nd, 2017, 1:13 pm

Transition memberships are absolutely no problem. It was done by the OVC with Western Kentucky, and could be done easily today. Even if there was a year of being an FCS independent (more difficult granted) it still wouldn't be a deal breaker.
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby Cdizzle » May 2nd, 2017, 1:34 pm

If Elgin is blameless and has no power (and maybe that is true), then what is the point of paying someone $300k+ for his useless position? He had no problem taking credit when things were going well.

"Another smaller league had great success in that same tournament: the Missouri Valley Conference. Bradley and Wichita State made surprising round-of-16 runs, and two other schools also made the tournament, for eight units, or $10.2 million over the next six years.

Missouri Valley Commissioner Doug Elgin’s compensation increased 40 percent over the life of that payout, from $224,250 in 2006 to $316,269 in 2012, according to conference tax records. Elgin defended his compensation and, unlike Yeager, said it was absolutely tied to the success of his conference’s basketball performance.

“I would hope that when the CEO of a business, when their return is off the charts, that their compensation is commensurate with performance,” said Elgin."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... caa-money/
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Re: MVC targeting Valpo & Murray State to create 11 team lea

Postby TheDrake » May 2nd, 2017, 2:12 pm

I sincerely hope that Mark Adams is mistaken in his report that the Valley is only adding 1. Murray St has demonstrated a readiness to invest in their program and has a history of success. By adding at least those two, the MCV can elevate itself beyond the reach of other mid-major leagues in the midwest.
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